Emotionally Immature Personalities: Lead with Composure at Work and at Home

Emotionally Immature Personalities: Lead with Composure at Work and at Home

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Emotionally Immature Personalities: Lead with Composure at Work and at Home

When conversations go in circles

 

You may notice situations like these:

  • You share an important observation. They nod—then switch topics.

  • Later it feels as if your words never landed.

  • You raise a shared issue. You get justification, drama, or withdrawal.

  • Empathy stays shallow. Responsibility slides toward you.

  • They can be charming, clever, even brilliant—and the talk still feels draining.

  • You invest clarity and energy, and get little real resonance back.

 

This guide helps you name the pattern, stay sovereign, and grow your inner adult—at work and in private life.

 

What “emotional immaturity” means

 

Emotional immaturity describes a developmental stage in handling feelings, relationships, and responsibility.

An emotionally immature person often:

  • reacts strongly to their own emotions,

  • regulates stress by avoiding, distracting, or shifting blame,

  • experiences feedback as attack,

  • stays focused on their own experience.

 

It resembles a teenage stage: big emotions, lots of drama, limited stable self-reflection.

 

Core markers

  • They hear words through a narrow personal filter.

  • Empathy appears in moments that fit their own story.

  • Consequences of their behavior feel “caused” by circumstances or other people.

 

Key reminder for you:

It reflects their history. Your worth stays intact.

 

How to recognize emotional immaturity

 

1) Low resonance in talks

 

Signals:

  • They pick one side remark and run with it.

  • Central points reappear later—distorted.

  • Feedback quickly turns into “me too, but worse.”

 

Felt sense: You speak; only fragments reach them.

 

2) Limited day-to-day empathy

 

  • Their needs take priority.

  • Others’ struggles matter when they fit the narrative.

  • Your inner world stays side topic; quick advice or comparisons take over.

 

3) Avoiding responsibility

 

  • Feedback triggers counterattack or victim mode.

  • Choices are framed as forced by “the situation.”

  • Promises later dissolve into long explanations.

 

Felt sense: You end up carrying mood, harmony, and often results.

 

Where it comes from

 

Usually not laziness. Often linked to:

  • early attachment with little emotional mirroring,

  • family climates with high tension and few mature conflict models,

  • contexts where performance, drama, or compliance were rewarded more than reflection,

  • organizational cultures that prize showmanship over steady maturity.

 

This explains the behavior—and frees you from over-owning their growth.

 

Not the same as narcissism (and not a diagnosis)

 

  • Emotional immaturity exists on a continuum.

  • Narcissistic patterns can overlap, yet include other traits (e.g., grandiosity, instrumental use of others).

  • Diagnosis belongs with licensed professionals (physicians, psychotherapists).

 

This article supports orientation in daily life; it is not a clinical assessment.

 

Impact on you—leader and private person

 

Contact with emotionally immature people creates a pull:

  • You explain yourself—again and again.

  • You spend energy on harmony.

  • You take on tasks and responsibility that should be shared.

  • You doubt your perception.

 

At work

 

Effects on:

  • Decisions: more mood-driven, less strategy-driven.

  • Team culture: drama, rumors, loyalty tests; accountability weakens.

  • Performance & retention: strong contributors feel drained, disengage, or leave.

 

Risk rises when emotionally immature people hold authority or key roles.

 

At home

 

You may notice:

  • creeping fatigue from recurring drama loops,

  • doubt about your feelings,

  • a sense of being “emotionally responsible” for their outbursts or withdrawals.

 

Seeing this clearly helps you return focus to your own stability.

 

Ground stances that protect you

 

1) Inner decoupling

 

Tell yourself:

  • “This behavior mirrors their current maturity level.”

  • “My worth and perception stand.”

 

This preserves self-respect and lowers emotional charge.

 

2) Realistic expectations

 

Sometimes you’ll see impressive insight—followed by old habits. Growth takes time.

  • Treat mature moments as gifts.

  • Build your strategy on your stability.

  • Act from your values.

 

3) Ownership of your boundary

 

Your boundary safeguards energy, integrity, and agency.

Emotionally mature people sense boundaries; emotionally immature people follow their own needs.

So you define, communicate, and keep your boundary.

 

Three practical steps (at a glance)

 

Step 1: Notice and name

 

  • Spot the pattern: drama, evasion, responsibility shift.

  • Track its impact on you: fatigue, confusion, pressure.

  • Name it inside: “I’m dealing with emotional immaturity.”

 

Step 2: Define and communicate your boundary

 

  • Decide what you give—and what you don’t.

  • State expectations in one or two clear sentences.

  • Set a frame: time, topic, goal.

 

Step 3: Strengthen your own maturity

 

  • Regulate your nervous system: breath, movement, pauses.

  • Nurture mature relationships that mirror and support you.

  • Use reflection: coaching, supervision, journaling, or therapy.

 

This three-step approach brings order to complexity and reinforces your adult presence.

 

Strategies at work

 

1) Emotionally immature boss

 

Traits: sudden pivots, high sensitivity to feedback, low openness to dissent, pushes responsibility down while controlling decisions.

Your moves:

  • Keep to facts, options, clear proposals.

  • Send written recaps after key talks.

  • Build alliances with other accountable players.

  • Stay aware of career and exit options.

 

You “manage upward” with structure and solutions—while protecting health and path.

 

2) Emotionally immature peers

 

Helpful steps:

  • Clear task boundaries and ownership.

  • Transparent team communication.

  • Minutes for agreements and deadlines.

  • Focus on projects and results—not drama.

 

Invest energy where maturity meets you; reduce status-driven entanglements.

 

Strategies in private life

 

1) Partner with emotional immaturity

 

Common patterns: high neediness, quick hurt, low self-reflection.

 

Your moves:

  • State needs and limits clearly.

  • Agree on talk rules (e.g., pause on escalation).

  • Choose how much emotional labor you’ll invest.

  • Maintain your own support network (friends, professionals).

 

2) Family of origin

 

Signs: low interest in your inner world, focus on their topics, expectation that you “perform emotionally.”

 

Helpful:

  • Adult perspective on their life story.

  • Adjust contact volume and topics.

  • Build a “chosen family” that sees and respects you.

 

Create an environment that strengthens your maturity.

 

Self-reflection: your parts and your adult

 

Mature handling includes your own patterns.

  • When do you get impulsive, defiant, or over-accommodating?

  • How does your “inner child” show up—withdrawal, attack, appease?

  • What would your inner adult do here?

 

 

Mini-exercise (3 lines):

  1. Name one of your reactions that feels childlike/dramatic.

  2. Name the values of your adult self.

  3. Craft one sentence that embodies them, e.g.,

    “I stay respectful and clear.” / “I protect my boundary and remain open to dialogue.”

 

This inner clarity changes your presence—regardless of their maturity.

 

When outside support helps

 

Consider coaching/therapy/supervision when you face:

  • recurring exposure to emotionally immature people in key roles,

  • long relationships dominated by rumination and self-doubt,

  • leadership roles carrying both business outcomes and many people’s emotional stability,

  • family dynamics where you serve as the “adult instance” across generations.

 

Support helps you:

  • sort inner loyalties,

  • strengthen self-leadership,

  • expand choices beyond appease vs. withdraw.

 

You’ll see what you own—and what stays with the other person.

 

Stay the adult—even when others feel younger inside

 

Emotionally immature personalities bring motion to any system.

They test limits, shift responsibility, and stir strong feelings.

Your task is not to educate them.

 

Your task is to live your maturity:

  • see clearly,

  • communicate kindly,

  • hold boundaries,

  • choose responsibility consciously.

 

You keep your dignity, strengthen your agency, and become a quiet, powerful resource—at work and at home.

And over time you may notice: the more consistently you live your adult compass, the more people around you start to grow as well.

Support

 

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Published: January 12th, 2018
Author: Karsten Noack
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Does Narcissism Get Worse With Age? What Research Says

When a Narcissist Ages – And the Mask Begins to Crack

To protect yourself from narcissists
How and why narcissists get worse with their age

Does Narcissism Get Worse With Age? What Research Actually Suggests

Aging does not automatically make narcissistic people more difficult. Yet changes in status, control, influence, health, and dependence can expose patterns that were easier to manage earlier in life.

 

This can become particularly relevant in business.

An aging founder struggles to hand over responsibility.

A senior executive experiences every challenge as an attack on authority.

A shareholder demands influence far beyond the agreed role.

A family-business transition turns into a battle over loyalty, status, and control.

From the outside, it can look as though narcissism is becoming stronger with age.

The research tells a more interesting story.

 

 

 

Does Narcissism Increase With Age?

 

On average, the answer points in the opposite direction.

A major 2024 meta-analysis combined longitudinal data from 51 samples involving more than 37,000 participants.

The researchers examined three dimensions of narcissism:

  • agentic narcissism
  • antagonistic narcissism
  • neurotic narcissism

Across the observed age range, all three tended to decline.

At the same time, individual differences remained remarkably stable.

In practical terms:

People generally become somewhat less narcissistic as they age, while people who are particularly narcissistic compared with their peers often remain relatively high compared with their peers.

Age changes people.

It rarely erases longstanding personality patterns.

 

 

 

Narcissistic Traits and Narcissistic Personality Disorder Are Different Things

 

The word “narcissist” is used very freely in everyday conversation.

Psychology requires greater precision.

Narcissistic traits exist on a continuum.

A person may show characteristics such as:

  • a strong need for admiration
  • entitlement
  • status orientation
  • sensitivity to criticism
  • limited perspective-taking
  • exploitation of relationships
  • grandiosity
  • strong reactions to perceived humiliation

A clinical diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder requires professional assessment according to established diagnostic criteria.

This article therefore focuses primarily on observable narcissistic patterns and their consequences in professional relationships.

That is usually the more useful question in business anyway.

You rarely need a diagnosis to recognize that a pattern is creating serious problems.

 

 

 

Why Can Someone Seem More Narcissistic as They Age?

 

If narcissistic traits tend to decline on average, why do some people appear considerably more difficult later in life?

Several mechanisms can contribute.

 

1. Status May Change

For some people, identity is closely tied to:

  • position
  • authority
  • professional success
  • recognition
  • wealth
  • influence
  • being needed

Aging can change all of these.

A founder prepares to hand over the company.

A managing director moves toward retirement.

Younger executives gain influence.

Former sources of admiration become less available.

For a psychologically flexible person, this can become a transition into a new role.

For someone whose self-worth depends heavily on status and superiority, the same transition may feel deeply threatening.

The resulting struggle may show up as stronger attempts to preserve control.

 

2. Succession Can Feel Like Loss of Identity

This is especially important in owner-managed and family businesses.

Imagine someone who has spent 35 years building a company.

The organization carries their name.

Employees look to them for decisions.

Clients know them personally.

The business represents achievement, identity, influence, and belonging.

Then succession begins.

On paper, this is a governance issue.

Psychologically, it can mean:

Who am I when somebody else makes the decisions?

That question can become particularly difficult for someone whose identity depends strongly on power, admiration, or being indispensable.

 

3. Dependence Can Challenge a Strong Need for Control

Aging sometimes increases dependence on other people.

Support may become useful.

Responsibilities may shift.

Physical energy may change.

Other people may increasingly handle matters that the person previously controlled personally.

For someone who equates independence with strength and dependence with vulnerability, this shift can generate considerable tension.

That tension may appear as:

  • micromanagement
  • criticism
  • demands
  • blame
  • refusal to delegate
  • changing agreements
  • attempts to regain influence

 

4. Established Patterns Have Had Decades to Become Established

Age brings experience.

Experience can create wisdom.

Experience can also reinforce strategies that repeatedly produced desired results.

If intimidation worked for decades, the person may continue using intimidation.

If charm secured loyalty, charm may remain a favorite strategy.

If blame protected self-image, blame may appear whenever responsibility feels uncomfortable.

Longstanding behavior can become highly practiced.

This explains why expecting age alone to transform a difficult relationship can lead to disappointment.

 

 

 

What Aging Can Reveal

 

Sometimes age changes the personality less than it changes the environment surrounding the personality.

Earlier in life, a powerful executive may have had:

  • a prestigious title
  • a large organization
  • financial influence
  • assistants and employees
  • constant professional attention
  • clear authority
  • an audience

These structures can support a particular self-image.

When some of them disappear, underlying vulnerabilities can become easier to see.

The person may therefore appear more demanding, defensive, controlling, or preoccupied with recognition.

The personality may have changed less than the protective environment around it.

That distinction matters.

 

 

 

Aging Is Never a Diagnosis

 

Older adults differ enormously from one another.

Many people become more reflective, generous, flexible, and comfortable with themselves as they age.

The research on narcissism broadly supports a gradual average decline across the lifespan.

Individual development still varies.

Age alone tells you very little about how one particular person will behave.

Look at patterns.

Look at behavior.

Look at the consequences.

That gives you far more useful information than stereotypes about age.

 

 

 

The More Useful Question: What Happens When Their Position Is Challenged?

 

In business, I find another question more useful than:

“Is this person becoming more narcissistic?”

Ask:

“What happens when this person experiences a loss of control, status, influence, or admiration?”

Watch what follows.

Can they adapt?

Can they share responsibility?

Can they respect agreed roles?

Can they hear a different perspective?

Can they acknowledge another person’s contribution?

Can they accept a decision that reduces their influence?

Can they participate constructively in succession?

These questions tell you much more about the working relationship ahead.

 

 

 

Patterns That Deserve Attention in Business

 

Suppose you are working with an older founder, shareholder, business partner, or executive who shows strong narcissistic tendencies.

Several patterns deserve particular attention.

 

Agreements Keep Moving

You reach an agreement.

Later, the agreement is reinterpreted.

Responsibilities shift again.

Decision rights become unclear.

Previous conversations seem to acquire a new meaning.

This creates uncertainty throughout the organization.

 

Delegation Happens Without Real Transfer of Authority

A successor receives the title.

The former leader continues to intervene.

Employees receive competing instructions.

Decisions are quietly reversed.

The organization now has two centers of authority.

This is a governance problem as much as an interpersonal problem.

 

Criticism Becomes a Question of Loyalty

A factual disagreement becomes:

“After everything I have done for you.”

“You have changed.”

“People are turning against me.”

“You clearly have your own agenda.”

The discussion moves away from the decision and toward loyalty, gratitude, or personal allegiance.

 

Past Achievements Become Present Authority

Past achievement deserves recognition.

Present governance still requires clarity about present roles.

A common difficulty appears when historical contribution becomes an unlimited claim to current control.

“I built this company” can be completely true.

It still leaves an important question:

Who has which authority today?

 

Triangulation Increases

Instead of resolving a disagreement directly, different people receive different versions of the story.

Employees are pulled into management conflict.

Family members become messengers.

Shareholders form shifting alliances.

Information becomes a source of influence.

The organization begins spending increasing amounts of energy managing relationships around one person.

That is a significant warning sign.

 

 

 

When the Aging Narcissistic Founder Is Your Parent

 

Family businesses create an additional level of complexity.

Your shareholder may also be your father.

Your predecessor may also be your mother.

Your sibling may also sit on the board.

Every business conversation carries decades of family history into the room.

A sentence about budgets can suddenly become a sentence about gratitude.

A governance question can become a question about loyalty.

A succession decision can awaken an old parent-child dynamic.

This is where roles need exceptional clarity.

Ask:

  • Which conversation belongs to the family?
  • Which conversation belongs to ownership?
  • Which conversation belongs to management?
  • Who has formal authority?
  • Which decisions require which people?
  • Which agreements belong in writing?

Clear roles protect both the business and the relationships around it.

 

 

 

Stop Trying to Win the Diagnosis

 

People sometimes spend extraordinary amounts of energy asking:

“Is this person really a narcissist?”

The question can be intellectually interesting.

It often contributes surprisingly little to the next decision.

You can work with observable facts:

  • Which behavior occurs?
  • How often?
  • What does it affect?
  • Which agreements are being violated?
  • Which risks arise?
  • Which boundaries are needed?
  • Which decision lies ahead?

You can respond to a destructive pattern without proving a personality diagnosis.

This keeps attention where you have influence.

 

 

 

How to Deal With Narcissistic Patterns in a Professional Relationship

 

1. Stay With Observable Behavior

 

Instead of:

“You are becoming increasingly narcissistic.”

Try:

“We agreed that operational decisions in this area belong to the managing director. Three instructions were subsequently given directly to the team. We need one clear decision structure.”

This keeps the conversation connected to the professional issue.

 

 

2. Clarify Roles and Decision Rights

 

Ambiguity gives difficult dynamics room to grow.

Clarify:

  • roles
  • authority
  • decision rights
  • reporting lines
  • communication channels
  • escalation procedures

In family businesses and shareholder conflicts, formal governance can become especially valuable.

 

 

3. Document Important Agreements

 

Written agreements create a shared reference point.

After an important meeting, summarize:

  • what was decided
  • who is responsible
  • what happens next
  • which deadline applies

This reduces the space for later reinterpretation.

 

 

4. Prepare for Emotional Pressure

 

Pressure can take many forms:

  • anger
  • withdrawal
  • dramatic disappointment
  • appeals to loyalty
  • personal attacks
  • urgency
  • guilt

Preparation helps you separate emotional intensity from the decision itself.

Ask yourself before the conversation:

What remains true even when the other person becomes emotional?

 

 

5. Define Your Boundaries Before the Conversation

 

A boundary becomes much easier to communicate once you know what it is.

Clarify in advance:

  • what you can accept
  • what requires further discussion
  • what exceeds your mandate
  • what requires formal approval
  • what consequence follows if an agreement is breached

Clarity before the meeting creates greater composure during the meeting.

 

 

6. Separate Respect From Submission

 

An older founder may deserve enormous respect for what they created.

A former CEO may have decades of experience.

A parent may have taken substantial personal risks to build a family business.

Respect can coexist with clear roles, boundaries, and decision rights.

Recognition of past contribution and clarity about present responsibility can exist at the same time.

 

 

7. Bring in the Right Expertise

 

Some situations involve governance, ownership, employment law, succession, contracts, or fiduciary duties.

These questions deserve appropriately qualified legal, tax, or corporate-governance expertise.

Executive Sparring serves a different purpose:

clarifying your thinking, preparing communication, understanding interpersonal dynamics, and helping you enter important situations with greater clarity.

 

 

 

Prepare the Conversation Before You Enter the Room

 

When a relationship already contains power struggles or narcissistic dynamics, spontaneous conversations can become expensive.

Prepare.

Before the meeting, clarify:

  • What is the purpose of the conversation?
  • Which decision is required?
  • Which facts matter?
  • Which topics belong elsewhere?
  • Which emotional reactions are predictable?
  • Where can you remain flexible?
  • Where does the situation require clarity?
  • Which questions do you want to ask?
  • What will you do if the conversation leaves the agreed frame?

This gives you something more valuable than the perfect sentence.

It gives you orientation.

→ Prepare an Important Conversation or Negotiation

 

 

 

A Difficult Shareholder Requires More Than Better Communication

 

Sometimes people focus intensely on finding the perfect wording.

The deeper issue may involve:

  • governance
  • power
  • ownership
  • dependency
  • unclear authority
  • succession
  • conflicting interests

Communication still matters.

It works best when the structural reality becomes clear as well.

→ Conversation With a Difficult Shareholder

 

 

 

What If the Person Really Is Becoming More Difficult?

 

Return to observable reality.

Ask:

  • Which behavior has changed?
  • When did the change begin?
  • Which situations trigger it?
  • What impact does it have?
  • Who else has observed it?
  • Which professional risks arise?

Significant changes in behavior later in life can have many possible explanations.

A qualified health professional can assess medical or psychological questions when those become relevant.

Within the business, your task remains clearer:

manage the behavior, responsibilities, risks, and decisions that affect the organization.

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

Does narcissism automatically become worse with age?

The research points toward a more nuanced answer.

On average, narcissistic traits tend to decline over the lifespan.

Individual differences remain relatively stable.

Longstanding personality patterns can continue into later life.

And changes in status, control, autonomy, influence, and identity can place particular pressure on people with strong narcissistic tendencies.

That pressure can make difficult behavior more visible.

For you, the most useful focus is usually less about the label and more about the pattern:

  • What is happening?
  • What effect does it have?
  • Which role do you hold?
  • Which boundaries and agreements matter?
  • Which decision comes next?

Clarity about behavior gives you more room to act than certainty about a label.

 

 

 

Research Note

 

A 2024 meta-analytic review by Ulrich Orth, Samantha Krauss, and Mitja D. Back examined the development of narcissism across the lifespan using 51 longitudinal samples with 37,247 participants.

The analysis found average declines in agentic, antagonistic, and neurotic narcissism across the observed age range, alongside substantial stability in individual differences.

Research on personality disorders in older adults remains considerably smaller than research in younger populations. Clinical literature shows that personality pathology can persist into later life and may take forms that interact with age-related changes in roles, autonomy, health, and relationships.

 

 

 

Dealing With a Difficult Founder, Shareholder, or Executive?

 

You may already understand the dynamics.

The harder question is often:

What do you do next?

Executive Sparring can help you examine the situation, clarify your options, prepare important conversations, and remain effective when power, pressure, relationships, and business interests interact.

I work primarily with executives, business owners, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

→ Executive Sparring

→ High-Stakes Communication

→ Fees & Booking

→ Discuss Your Situation

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with executives, business owners, and senior leaders on important decisions, difficult professional relationships, conversations, negotiations, and situations where careful preparation matters.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching work.

→ About Karsten Noack

Compassionate Support for Those Affected by Narcissists

(Note: This is not legal advice—consult a legal professional for legal issues.)

 

 

Understanding the Challenge

 

Dealing with narcissistic individuals can lead to intense emotional pain, confusion, and exhaustion. I understand that many of you are facing an overwhelming situation, feeling isolated and unsure where to turn. My goal is to provide you with clear, compassionate support to help you regain control and navigate through this challenging time.

 

 

Immediate Support and Appointment Options

 

If you need urgent help, I strive to be available at short notice, often even on the same day. This is possible thanks to immediate bank transfer options. A 60-minute phone call is typically sufficient to address urgent concerns, provide support, and create clarity. You have several options for appointments:

  • In-person meetings: Available in Berlin.
  • Phone consultations: Flexible and convenient.
  • Video sessions: Internet-based video conferencing for a face-to-face experience.

 

If you are looking for guidance in making decisions, communicating effectively, or managing emotional distress due to narcissistic relationships, I am here to arrange a session that suits your needs.

 

 

Booking an Appointment

 

Due to the high volume of requests, my volunteer assistance must remain limited. However, I am committed to providing professional support—whether you need therapeutic help or coaching (excluding legal advice).

Appointments can be booked:

 

For your convenience, sessions can be arranged quickly thanks to real-time bank transfers. You may schedule an appointment first or, for even faster service, book directly. Once the fee is received, we will find the next available slot to suit your schedule.

 

 

Therapeutic Support and Reduced Fees

 

If you are experiencing the psychological effects of narcissistic abuse, I offer specialized therapeutic support. My goal is to help you overcome the confusion and pain caused by narcissistic relationships. Additionally, reduced rates are available specifically for therapeutic assistance related to narcissistic abuse, as I recognize the burden these experiences can place on your well-being.

 

 

Financial Limitations and Alternative Support

 

I understand that not everyone has the financial means to afford professional support. In such cases, I invite you to use the comment section as a platform to connect and share experiences with others facing similar challenges. I occasionally provide responses there, offering guidance that may help you move forward.

To further assist, I offer a free initial consultation by phone on the first Monday of each month, from 9:00 AM to 12:00 PM. This is my way of giving back and helping those in need of immediate guidance. To access this free service, please call +49 (0)30 864 213 65. Note that calls outside these hours or to other phone numbers will be handled exclusively as part of professional support.

 

 

Questions and Private Concerns

 

For questions that could benefit others, feel free to ask in the comment section. Sharing these questions helps others understand that they are not alone and provides collective insights. For more private matters, I am available for professional support.

To arrange an appointment, discuss support options, or address organizational questions, please reach out via email at mail@karstennoack.com or better please use the contact form.

 

 

A Final Note

 

Thank you for your understanding regarding my procedures and the limitations I face due to the high volume of requests. Your courage in seeking support is commendable, and I am here to provide guidance, compassion, and clarity on your journey.

Be ready for important conversations and negotiations

 

Communication can be easy. But often it is not. Sometimes we say one thing and then realize later, based on the other person's reaction, that they were talking to someone else. With the best will in the world, I didn't say that. - Or did I?

More or less consciously, conversations are about convincing other people of something - be it a special offer, your personality, a perspective, or a necessity. If this doesn't happen quickly enough, and above all, if it isn't precise and vivid, the other person quickly loses interest, and we lose the hoped-for opportunity. - The conversation has failed.

You can let me help you prepare for your meetings and negotiations (to be on the safe side: no legal advice!). Find out how you and your message are perceived (arguments, body language, language, voice, and much more). I will train you effective tools and communication strategies. Develop your psychological skills, learn to stay calm, act confidently, remain authentic, and ultimately convince.

Contact Me for More Information

 

If you have specific questions or want to know more about how I can help, just ask me directly. For questions that might interest others, please feel free to post them in the comments section below.

 

 

Looking for Professional Support?

 

If you're interested in coaching, training, or consulting, have organizational questions, or would like to schedule an appointment, the best way to reach me is through this contact form (where you can choose whether to provide your personal data) or by email at mail@karstennoack.com. You can find the privacy policy here.

 

 

Transparency and Frequently Asked Questions

 

Transparency is important to me. To help you get started, I've provided answers to frequently asked questions about myself (profile), the services I offer, fees, and the process of getting to know me. If you like what you see, I'd be delighted to work with you.

I have read and accept the privacy policy.

P.S.

 

What do you think?

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Compassion for narcissists?

Compassion for narcissists?

On some occasions, I stand up for people who suffer from narcissistic personalities. Thus, I am frequently asked if I have no sympathy for narcissists. Here is my answer.

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This article is a short excerpt from the more comprehensive course materials my clients receive in group or individual training or coaching.

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Author: Karsten Noack
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Am I a Narcissist? 8 Questions for Honest Self-Reflection

Am I a Narcissist? 8 Questions for Honest Self-Reflection

8 Clear Signs That You Are Not a Narcissist
Narcissist

Am I a Narcissist? 8 Better Questions for Honest Self-Reflection

Wondering whether you have narcissistic traits does not provide a diagnosis — or an all-clear. A more useful approach is to look at recurring patterns, their impact on other people, and your ability to adapt.

 

Perhaps someone called you narcissistic.

Perhaps a conflict left you wondering whether they had a point.

Perhaps you recognize certain traits in yourself.

Or perhaps you lead people, carry considerable responsibility, and want a clearer understanding of how your behavior affects others.

The word “narcissist” is used so casually today that it can create more confusion than clarity.

Confidence gets called narcissism.

Ambition gets called narcissism.

Setting boundaries gets called narcissism.

And genuinely destructive behavior sometimes receives the same label.

We can do better than that.

Instead of asking only “Am I a narcissist?”, examine the patterns that shape your relationships, leadership, decisions, and response to other people.

 

 

 

First: Narcissistic Traits and Narcissistic Personality Disorder Are Different

 

Narcissism exists on a continuum.

People can show narcissistic traits without meeting the criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Some degree of self-confidence, ambition, desire for recognition, and pride in achievement can support professional success.

The concern grows when patterns become pervasive, rigid, and damaging across important areas of life.

Clinical descriptions of Narcissistic Personality Disorder include recurring patterns involving grandiosity, a strong need for admiration, entitlement, exploitation of others, difficulties with empathy, envy, arrogance, and preoccupation with status, success, or superiority.

A clinical diagnosis requires much more than recognizing one or two qualities in yourself.

It involves a professional evaluation of:

  • the overall pattern
  • how persistent it is
  • how broadly it appears across situations
  • how it affects relationships and functioning
  • whether other explanations fit better

A checklist can support reflection. It cannot replace clinical assessment.

 

 

 

Does Asking “Am I a Narcissist?” Mean You Probably Are Not?

 

This popular reassurance sounds comforting.

It is also too simple.

Self-reflection is valuable.

Research suggests that narcissistic individuals can have at least some awareness of their own traits and of how other people perceive them.

At the same time, narcissism has been associated with self-enhancement — seeing certain personal qualities more favorably than observers or objective measures do.

So the fact that you are asking the question tells us one useful thing:

You are willing to examine yourself.

What matters next is what you do with that examination.

 

 

 

A Better Question: What Happens When Your Self-Image Is Challenged?

 

Narcissistic patterns often become most visible when something important feels threatened.

Status.

Competence.

Recognition.

Control.

Authority.

The image of being successful or exceptional.

This is particularly relevant in leadership.

Almost anyone can appear generous and composed when everything is going well.

The more revealing moments often come when:

  • someone disagrees with you
  • you make a mistake
  • another person receives the credit
  • your authority is questioned
  • someone gives you uncomfortable feedback
  • a decision goes against you
  • someone performs better than you expected

Those moments reveal how flexible your self-esteem really is.

 

 

 

8 Questions for Honest Self-Reflection

 

1. What Happens When Someone Criticizes You?

 

Few people enjoy criticism.

The useful question is what happens next.

Can you stay curious long enough to ask:

“Is there something here I should understand?”

Or does criticism quickly become a threat to your status or identity?

Watch for recurring responses such as:

  • immediate counterattack
  • belittling the person giving feedback
  • searching for their weaknesses instead of examining the message
  • punishing dissent
  • withdrawing recognition or support
  • rewriting the situation so responsibility moves elsewhere

Healthy confidence can tolerate information that feels uncomfortable.

You can disagree with criticism and still examine it.

 

 

2. How Easily Can You Say “I Was Wrong”?

 

Responsibility becomes a powerful test of character when the consequences matter.

Can you say:

“That was my decision.”

“I misjudged the situation.”

“You warned me, and you were right.”

“I handled that badly.”

Leadership becomes difficult when maintaining the image of being right matters more than learning from what happened.

Ask yourself:

When something fails, do I investigate what happened — or first investigate who can carry the blame?

 

 

3. Can Other People Shine Without Diminishing You?

 

A useful indicator of psychological security is your response to another person’s success.

A colleague gets the recognition.

An employee has the better idea.

A younger executive receives attention.

Your business partner closes the deal.

Can you appreciate their contribution?

Can you share credit?

Can someone else be excellent in the same room as you?

A strong sense of self creates room for other people’s strengths.

A fragile one may experience another person’s success as a reduction of its own value.

 

 

4. How Curious Are You About Other People’s Perspective?

 

Empathy involves more than being kind.

In professional life, it also means recognizing that another person has their own needs, interests, fears, priorities, and interpretation of events.

Ask yourself:

  • Do I ask questions before drawing conclusions?
  • Can I understand another perspective while disagreeing with it?
  • Do I notice how my decisions affect people with less power?
  • Can I recognize another person’s emotional reality without making it about me?

Perspective-taking is one of the most useful leadership capabilities available.

It improves conversations, negotiations, decisions, and relationships.

 

 

5. Do You Expect Different Rules for Yourself?

 

Entitlement often appears in small moments.

Other people should be punctual.

Your own lateness has an important explanation.

Other people should follow processes.

Your position makes the process optional.

Other people should accept feedback professionally.

Feedback directed at you requires exceptional sensitivity.

Other people should respect boundaries.

Your urgency deserves immediate access.

Ask yourself:

Would I consider this behavior reasonable if someone with less status behaved the same way?

That question can reveal entitlement surprisingly quickly.

 

 

6. What Happens to People Who Disagree With You?

 

This question is particularly important for leaders.

People quickly learn what happens when they tell the truth upward.

If disagreement leads to:

  • loss of access
  • less favorable assignments
  • ridicule
  • anger
  • public correction
  • career consequences

people adapt.

They stop challenging you.

Then something dangerous can happen.

You may experience less resistance and interpret that as stronger leadership.

In reality, you may simply receive less honest information.

A useful leadership question is: How safe is it for competent people around me to tell me something I do not want to hear?

 

 

7. Are Relationships Mainly About What People Provide?

 

Professional relationships naturally involve exchange.

People collaborate because they bring value to one another.

The question is whether people gradually become valuable only according to what they provide you.

Attention.

Status.

Access.

Loyalty.

Admiration.

Results.

Useful connections.

Ask yourself what happens when someone has less to offer.

Do they suddenly become less interesting?

Do you retain respect for people whose usefulness changes?

Do you value relationships that involve reciprocity rather than admiration?

This can reveal a great deal about the quality of your connections.

 

 

8. Can You Change When Your Impact Differs From Your Intention?

 

You intended to be decisive.

Other people experienced you as dismissive.

You intended to challenge the team.

They experienced humiliation.

You intended to communicate confidence.

Others experienced arrogance.

You intended to move quickly.

People experienced that questions were unwelcome.

The crucial question is less:

“Who is right?”

and more:

“What can I learn from the difference between my intention and my impact?”

Mature leadership includes the ability to adjust behavior while remaining true to your values and objectives.

 

 

 

Confidence Is Different From Narcissism

 

Confidence often gets confused with narcissism.

The distinction matters.

Healthy confidence can sound like:

“I know what I can do.”

“I have earned this responsibility.”

“I have a strong view.”

“I believe this decision is right.”

“I want to succeed.”

None of these statements automatically indicates narcissism.

Healthy confidence leaves room for:

  • evidence
  • feedback
  • other people’s competence
  • changing your mind
  • shared credit
  • learning
  • reciprocity

The goal is not to become smaller. The goal is to become secure enough to remain open.

 

 

 

Ambition Is Different From Entitlement

 

You can want influence, success, money, responsibility, status, or recognition.

Those goals tell us little by themselves.

The more revealing questions are:

How do you pursue them?

How do you treat people who stand between you and what you want?

How do you respond when someone else succeeds?

What happens when you lose?

What rules do you expect other people to follow?

Ambition concerns what you want to achieve. Entitlement concerns what you believe other people owe you.

 

 

 

Leadership Can Hide Blind Spots

 

The more senior your position becomes, the harder accurate self-perception can become.

People choose their words more carefully around power.

Employees may laugh more readily.

Objections become softer.

Bad news takes longer to reach you.

People may tolerate behavior from a CEO that they would challenge immediately in a colleague.

This creates a paradox:

The more influence you have, the more important honest feedback becomes — and the harder it may be to obtain.

This is one reason independent feedback can be particularly valuable for executives and business owners.

 

 

 

Self-Image and Reputation Can Differ

 

Research on narcissism and self-insight has found an interesting pattern.

People with stronger narcissistic traits may recognize some aspects of their reputation while simultaneously evaluating themselves more positively than observers do.

This means self-awareness is rarely binary.

You may understand that people experience you as dominant while still believing your dominance is entirely justified.

You may know that others consider you arrogant while interpreting their reaction as envy.

You may recognize conflict while locating its cause exclusively in the other person.

That is why useful reflection goes beyond identifying a trait.

Ask:

How accurately do I understand the effect I have on other people?

→ Professional Impact Analysis: How Do Others Experience You?

 

 

 

Grandiose and Vulnerable Narcissistic Patterns

 

Narcissism can appear in different ways.

Some patterns are highly visible.

Confidence.

Dominance.

Self-promotion.

Status seeking.

Others can involve greater vulnerability.

Strong sensitivity to criticism.

Shame.

Fluctuating self-esteem.

Withdrawal after perceived failure.

Intense reactions to rejection.

Research increasingly recognizes that grandiose and vulnerable features can coexist within pathological narcissism.

This is another reason simple internet stereotypes can mislead.

 

 

 

Five Questions Particularly Useful for Leaders

 

If you lead people, run a company, or carry substantial responsibility, ask yourself:

  • Who around me can disagree with me safely?
  • When did I last change my mind because someone else had the stronger argument?
  • When did I last take public responsibility for a mistake?
  • Do people around me become more capable and confident — or increasingly careful?
  • What feedback about my impact have I heard repeatedly?

These questions create more useful information than asking whether you fit a popular label.

 

 

 

Look for Patterns Rather Than Moments

 

Everyone has moments of:

  • self-centeredness
  • defensiveness
  • envy
  • arrogance
  • poor empathy
  • sensitivity to criticism

A single moment tells you little about personality structure.

Look instead at:

  • frequency
  • intensity
  • flexibility
  • context
  • consequences
  • recurring feedback from different people

A useful question is:

Does the same pattern keep appearing across different relationships and situations?

 

 

 

Ask What You Do After You Recognize a Pattern

 

Self-awareness gains value when it changes behavior.

Suppose you realize:

“I become dismissive when somebody challenges my expertise.”

That insight gives you options.

You can pause.

Ask another question.

Invite the other person to complete their argument.

Separate disagreement from disrespect.

Review the evidence.

Ask afterwards how the conversation landed.

Insight becomes development when it expands your behavioral choices.

 

 

 

When Other People Keep Calling You Narcissistic

 

A label can be used unfairly.

It can also contain useful information.

Instead of debating the label first, ask for specifics.

“Which behavior are you referring to?”

“Can you give me an example?”

“What effect did that have?”

“What would you have expected instead?”

Now you have something you can examine.

Perhaps the accusation collapses under scrutiny.

Perhaps you discover a genuine blind spot.

Either result gives you more information than arguing about the word “narcissist.”

 

 

 

When Should You Seek a Professional Assessment?

 

If your main question is clinical — for example whether you meet criteria for Narcissistic Personality Disorder — a qualified mental health professional is the appropriate person to assess that question.

Clinical assessment considers your broader personality pattern, functioning, history, relationships, and possible alternative explanations.

An online article can provide orientation.

A professional assessment can provide diagnostic clarification.

 

 

 

When the Question Is About Leadership Rather Than Diagnosis

 

Sometimes the more useful question is professional rather than clinical.

You may want to know:

  • How do I affect other people?
  • Which blind spots limit my leadership?
  • How do I respond under pressure?
  • How well do I listen when people disagree?
  • How do I use authority?
  • Which patterns repeatedly create conflict?
  • Where would greater flexibility make me more effective?

These questions can be explored without turning leadership development into diagnosis.

That distinction matters.

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

So, are you a narcissist?

An article cannot answer that question.

And the fact that you asked it does not provide a reliable yes or no.

What self-reflection can give you is something highly valuable:

a better view of your patterns.

Pay particular attention to what happens when:

  • you receive criticism
  • you make a mistake
  • someone else succeeds
  • your status is challenged
  • another person needs something from you
  • your impact differs from your intention

Then ask the question that matters most for development:

Can I see the pattern clearly enough to choose a better response?

 

 

 

For Executives and Business Owners: Want an Independent View of Your Impact?

 

The more responsibility you carry, the harder candid feedback can become to obtain.

Executive Sparring offers a confidential space to examine your decisions, communication, leadership patterns, and impact without turning every question into a diagnosis.

We can work with real situations:

  • a difficult leadership conversation
  • recurring conflict
  • feedback you are struggling to interpret
  • a new executive role
  • communication under pressure
  • your professional impact

I work primarily with executives, business owners, managing directors, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

→ Executive Sparring

→ Professional Impact Analysis

→ Fees & Booking

→ Discuss Your Situation

 

 

 

Research and Further Reading

 

For clinical descriptions and diagnostic criteria:

→ Merck Manual Professional: Narcissistic Personality Disorder

→ Mayo Clinic: Narcissistic Personality Disorder

For research on narcissism and self-insight:

→ Grijalva & Zhang: Narcissism and Self-Insight

For a contemporary review of Narcissistic Personality Disorder:

→ Weinberg & Ronningstam: Narcissistic Personality Disorder — Progress in Understanding and Treatment

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with executives, business owners, and senior leaders on important decisions, communication, leadership situations, professional impact, and difficult interpersonal dynamics.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching work.

→ About Karsten Noack

Compassionate Support for Those Affected by Narcissists

(Note: This is not legal advice—consult a legal professional for legal issues.)

 

 

Understanding the Challenge

 

Dealing with narcissistic individuals can lead to intense emotional pain, confusion, and exhaustion. I understand that many of you are facing an overwhelming situation, feeling isolated and unsure where to turn. My goal is to provide you with clear, compassionate support to help you regain control and navigate through this challenging time.

 

 

Immediate Support and Appointment Options

 

If you need urgent help, I strive to be available at short notice, often even on the same day. This is possible thanks to immediate bank transfer options. A 60-minute phone call is typically sufficient to address urgent concerns, provide support, and create clarity. You have several options for appointments:

  • In-person meetings: Available in Berlin.
  • Phone consultations: Flexible and convenient.
  • Video sessions: Internet-based video conferencing for a face-to-face experience.

 

If you are looking for guidance in making decisions, communicating effectively, or managing emotional distress due to narcissistic relationships, I am here to arrange a session that suits your needs.

 

 

Booking an Appointment

 

Due to the high volume of requests, my volunteer assistance must remain limited. However, I am committed to providing professional support—whether you need therapeutic help or coaching (excluding legal advice).

Appointments can be booked:

 

For your convenience, sessions can be arranged quickly thanks to real-time bank transfers. You may schedule an appointment first or, for even faster service, book directly. Once the fee is received, we will find the next available slot to suit your schedule.

 

 

Therapeutic Support and Reduced Fees

 

If you are experiencing the psychological effects of narcissistic abuse, I offer specialized therapeutic support. My goal is to help you overcome the confusion and pain caused by narcissistic relationships. Additionally, reduced rates are available specifically for therapeutic assistance related to narcissistic abuse, as I recognize the burden these experiences can place on your well-being.

 

 

Financial Limitations and Alternative Support

 

I understand that not everyone has the financial means to afford professional support. In such cases, I invite you to use the comment section as a platform to connect and share experiences with others facing similar challenges. I occasionally provide responses there, offering guidance that may help you move forward.

To further assist, I offer a free initial consultation by phone on the first Monday of each month, from 9:00 AM to 12:00 PM. This is my way of giving back and helping those in need of immediate guidance. To access this free service, please call +49 (0)30 864 213 65. Note that calls outside these hours or to other phone numbers will be handled exclusively as part of professional support.

 

 

Questions and Private Concerns

 

For questions that could benefit others, feel free to ask in the comment section. Sharing these questions helps others understand that they are not alone and provides collective insights. For more private matters, I am available for professional support.

To arrange an appointment, discuss support options, or address organizational questions, please reach out via email at mail@karstennoack.com or better please use the contact form.

 

 

A Final Note

 

Thank you for your understanding regarding my procedures and the limitations I face due to the high volume of requests. Your courage in seeking support is commendable, and I am here to provide guidance, compassion, and clarity on your journey.

Contact Me for More Information

 

If you have specific questions or want to know more about how I can help, just ask me directly. For questions that might interest others, please feel free to post them in the comments section below.

 

 

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If you're interested in coaching, training, or consulting, have organizational questions, or would like to schedule an appointment, the best way to reach me is through this contact form (where you can choose whether to provide your personal data) or by email at mail@karstennoack.com. You can find the privacy policy here.

 

 

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Narcissistic Co-Founder? Warning Signs & What to Do

Narcissistic Co-Founder? Protect the Company Before You Diagnose the Person

Warning Signs & What to Do
What to do if co-founders in the startup have a narcissistic personality?

Narcissistic Co-Founder? Protect the Company Before You Diagnose the Person

A difficult co-founder can become one of the greatest risks to an otherwise promising company. The decisive question is rarely whether you can prove narcissism. It is whether your partnership still produces reliable decisions, clear accountability, and workable trust.

 

Your co-founder is impressive in a pitch.

Confident with investors.

Ambitious.

Quick to make decisions.

Comfortable taking risks.

At first, these qualities may have been part of the reason you wanted to build a company together.

Then something changes.

Important decisions are made without you.

Agreements are remembered differently afterwards.

Success belongs to your co-founder.

Failure belongs to someone else.

Questions are interpreted as disloyalty.

Employees receive conflicting instructions.

Investors hear a different version of events than you do.

And gradually you find yourself asking:

Am I building a company — or managing my co-founder?

That is the point where the label becomes less important than the structure of the problem.

 

 

 

First: A Difficult Co-Founder Is Not Automatically a Narcissist

 

Founders often need characteristics that can look narcissistic from the outside.

Confidence.

Ambition.

Optimism.

Persuasiveness.

A willingness to challenge conventional thinking.

Comfort with visibility.

Belief in an idea before other people believe in it.

None of these qualities establishes Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Narcissistic traits exist on a continuum, and a clinical diagnosis requires qualified professional assessment.

For a co-founder relationship, another question is usually more useful:

Which patterns appear when interests diverge, pressure increases, or your co-founder’s status and control are challenged?

 

 

 

 

Why Narcissistic Traits Can Initially Look Attractive in a Founder

 

Narcissism in leadership is more complicated than the popular idea that it is simply “bad.”

Research has linked narcissistic leadership with characteristics that can sometimes support entrepreneurship and innovation.

A highly self-confident founder may communicate a bold vision convincingly.

They may tolerate visibility that other people avoid.

They may pursue ambitious opportunities.

They may energize people around an idea.

They may be willing to make unusually bold moves.

This helps explain why the early stages of a partnership can feel exceptionally promising.

Yet qualities that create momentum can create different consequences when:

authority needs to be shared,

feedback becomes uncomfortable,

another founder receives recognition,

the company needs discipline rather than excitement,

or a major decision requires restraint.

The question is less whether a trait is inherently good or bad and more how it affects decisions, relationships, and governance in your particular company.

 

 

 

The Real Test Begins When You Disagree

 

Almost any co-founder relationship feels easier while both founders want the same thing.

The revealing moments come later.

You disagree about strategy.

One founder wants to raise capital.

The other wants to preserve control.

You disagree about hiring.

Compensation.

A major client.

An investor.

Product direction.

A possible sale.

Suddenly the quality of your partnership becomes visible.

Can both of you disagree and still respect agreed decision processes?

Can your co-founder hear evidence that challenges their position?

Can both founders accept responsibility?

Can credit be shared?

Can a decision go against one founder without turning into a loyalty conflict?

A strong founder relationship needs more than chemistry. It needs the ability to handle conflicting interests without destroying the system around the conflict.

 

 

 

Warning Signs That Deserve Attention

 

  • Unilateral decisions: Important commitments are repeatedly made outside agreed decision structures.
  • Moving agreements: What you agreed yesterday acquires a different meaning today.
  • Asymmetric accountability: Success is personalized while responsibility for failure moves elsewhere.
  • Credit problems: Contributions are minimized, appropriated, or selectively presented.
  • Feedback becomes personal: A disagreement about strategy quickly turns into an attack on loyalty, intelligence, or character.
  • Different audiences receive different stories: Investors, employees, shareholders, and co-founders hear incompatible versions of the same events.
  • Authority expands informally: Your co-founder behaves as though their formal mandate is broader than the agreed one.
  • Employees become part of the founder conflict: Team members are recruited into alliances or receive competing instructions.
  • Rules become asymmetric: Processes apply strictly to other people and flexibly to the founder.
  • Boundaries trigger escalation: Attempts to clarify roles or decision rights repeatedly produce disproportionate conflict.

One incident proves very little.

Recurring patterns across different situations deserve attention.

 

 

 

The Most Important Question Is Not “Are They a Narcissist?”

 

Suppose you obtain the answer tomorrow.

A specialist tells you with complete certainty:

“Yes. Your co-founder has strongly narcissistic traits.”

What changes on Monday morning?

You still need to decide:

Who can commit the company?

Who controls which information?

Which decisions require both founders?

How are disagreements resolved?

What happens when agreements are breached?

How do investors receive reliable information?

How do you protect employees from competing instructions?

Which decisions require legal advice?

And perhaps eventually:

Can this partnership continue?

The diagnosis may explain something.

The operating system of the company determines what happens next.

 

 

 

Governance Becomes More Important as Trust Declines

 

High trust allows people to operate with considerable informality.

Low trust makes informality expensive.

This is one of the most important shifts to recognize.

When the founder relationship becomes unreliable, increasingly important questions belong in clear structures.

Decision rights.

Signing authority.

Budgets.

Hiring authority.

Investor communication.

Client commitments.

Access to financial information.

Intellectual property.

Shareholder decisions.

Escalation mechanisms.

Documentation.

The purpose is not bureaucracy for its own sake. The purpose is reducing the number of crucial issues that depend entirely on personal goodwill.

 

 

 

Document Important Decisions

 

When people repeatedly remember agreements differently, memory becomes a poor governance mechanism.

After an important founder meeting, document what matters.

What was decided?

Who is responsible?

Which authority was granted?

Which deadline applies?

What requires further approval?

Who needs to be informed?

A concise written record can save hours of later conflict.

It also changes the nature of future discussions.

Instead of:

“That is not what I remember.”

you can return to:

“Here is the agreement we documented after the meeting.”

Documentation creates a shared reference point.

 

 

 

Watch What Happens to Information

 

Founder conflicts become particularly dangerous when information becomes a political resource.

You should understand how important information moves through the company.

Who knows what?

Who controls access?

Which figures can both founders see?

What do investors hear?

What does the management team hear?

Do different people receive different accounts?

Does important information arrive late when it weakens one founder’s position?

If trust in information deteriorates, strengthen verification.

A company cannot make sound decisions when its information system becomes part of the power struggle.

→ Narcissism, Deception, and Reliability in Business

 

 

 

Separate the Founder Conflict From the Business Decision

 

A common mistake is allowing every business question to become a referendum on the relationship.

You discuss a budget.

Suddenly the topic is respect.

You question a commitment.

The topic becomes loyalty.

You disagree about strategy.

The discussion becomes:

“You have never trusted me.”

This makes decisions extremely difficult.

When possible, return to the professional question:

What needs to be decided?

Which criteria matter?

Which authority applies?

Which information supports the decision?

What are the consequences?

You can acknowledge the relationship dynamic while still refusing to let it replace the business issue.

 

 

 

Do Not Fight for the Label

 

Telling your co-founder:

“You are a narcissist.”

rarely improves governance.

It changes the conversation from behavior to identity.

Your co-founder can now debate the diagnosis instead of the problem.

A stronger formulation is concrete.

For example:

“We agreed that commitments above this amount require both managing directors. This commitment was made without that approval. We need to clarify how decisions of this type will be handled from now on.”

Now the discussion has an observable structure:

agreement,

behavior,

effect,

future process.

You need clarity about the business behavior more than agreement about the psychological label.

 

 

 

Avoid Diagnosing Motives When Behavior Gives You Enough Information

 

You may wonder:

“Did they deliberately deceive me?”

“Are they trying to undermine me?”

“Are they threatened by my success?”

“Is this about control?”

Sometimes motives matter.

Frequently you cannot know them with certainty.

You may already know enough from the behavior.

An agreement was breached.

Relevant information was withheld.

A decision exceeded authority.

An employee received conflicting instructions.

An investor received inaccurate information.

Those facts deserve a response regardless of the hidden motive.

 

 

 

Prepare Important Founder Conversations Carefully

 

Once the relationship is tense, spontaneous conversations can become surprisingly expensive.

Before an important meeting, clarify:

What precisely do you want to achieve?

Which decision needs to be made?

Which facts can you document?

Which issues are interpretations?

Where can you be flexible?

Where does the company require clarity?

Which reactions are predictable?

What will you do if the conversation moves into personal accusations?

Which questions do you want answered?

Which outcome requires further legal, financial, or shareholder action?

Preparation gives you orientation when the emotional intensity rises.

→ High-Stakes Communication

 

 

 

When Feedback Becomes Dangerous

 

One warning sign deserves particular attention:

What happens to people who bring your co-founder unwelcome information?

If they are dismissed, belittled, excluded, or punished, the organization learns quickly.

People adapt what they report.

Bad news travels more slowly.

Questions become safer.

Reports become more flattering.

The founder receives an increasingly distorted picture of the company.

This turns an interpersonal problem into an organizational risk.

A leadership team needs channels through which important information can travel even when senior people dislike the message.

 

 

 

Be Careful With the “Brilliant Founder” Exception

 

A particularly successful founder can accumulate unusual freedom.

People tolerate behavior because:

the person brought in the investors,

developed the product,

owns the key relationships,

created the original idea,

or appears indispensable.

Past contribution deserves recognition.

It does not automatically resolve present governance questions.

Ask:

Would we accept this behavior from another executive in the same role?

That question can reveal how much the organization has begun designing exceptions around one personality.

 

 

 

When Investors Admire the Co-Founder You Struggle With

 

This can be particularly frustrating.

Your co-founder may be excellent in investor meetings.

Confident.

Visionary.

Energetic.

Persuasive.

Your experience inside the company may be completely different.

Both observations can contain truth.

A person can be compelling externally and difficult internally.

A founder can contribute genuine value and simultaneously create serious governance problems.

You strengthen your position by avoiding broad character attacks.

Bring investors and advisers concrete information when appropriate:

decisions,

agreements,

roles,

documented events,

business consequences.

Evidence is generally more persuasive than a psychological diagnosis you cannot establish.

 

 

 

 

Can You Fix a Narcissistic Co-Founder?

 

This may be the wrong objective.

You control very little about another adult’s personality.

You have considerably more influence over:

your own decisions,

your communication,

the agreements you accept,

the documentation you create,

the governance structures you support,

the advice you obtain,

and the consequences you are prepared to enforce.

A stronger question is:

What would need to change for this partnership to become professionally workable?

Then make the conditions concrete.

 

 

 

 

Know When the Problem Has Moved Beyond Communication

 

Better communication can accomplish a great deal.

It cannot replace governance.

It cannot rewrite shareholder agreements.

It cannot resolve questions of fiduciary responsibility.

It cannot determine legal authority.

It cannot protect intellectual property by itself.

It cannot solve insolvency issues.

And it cannot make an unsafe agreement safe through more elegant wording.

Bring in appropriately qualified legal, tax, financial, or corporate-governance professionals when the situation requires their expertise.

Executive Sparring serves another purpose:

helping you think clearly, understand the interpersonal dynamics, prepare difficult conversations, examine options, and decide how you want to proceed.

 

 

 

 

When Exit Becomes One of the Options

 

Not every founder conflict ends in separation.

Some partnerships improve once roles, authority, communication, and consequences become clearer.

Sometimes mediation or restructuring creates a workable arrangement.

Sometimes responsibilities can be separated.

And sometimes the central question becomes:

Can this partnership still serve the company and the people involved?

That is a strategic question as well as a personal one.

Before making a major move, understand:

your legal position,

your financial exposure,

shareholder agreements,

dependencies,

clients,

employees,

intellectual property,

financing,

and the likely consequences of different scenarios.

A rushed exit can create problems.

So can waiting indefinitely for a relationship to become something it has repeatedly failed to become.

 

 

 

 

If You Are Choosing a Co-Founder Now

 

The easiest founder conflict to manage is one you recognize before equity, money, employees, and identity make separation complicated.

Spend less time asking whether the other person is charismatic enough.

Watch what happens when you disagree.

How do they respond to boundaries?

Can they change their mind?

How do they describe former business partners?

Can they share credit?

How do they handle mistakes?

Do their stories remain consistent?

How do they behave when somebody with less status challenges them?

How do they respond when you receive more attention?

Discuss difficult scenarios before you need them.

Authority.

Equity.

Compensation.

Hiring.

Firing.

Fundraising.

Expenses.

Deadlocks.

Exit.

Shared enthusiasm starts companies. The ability to handle divergent interests helps partnerships survive.

 

 

 

 

What Research Suggests

 

Research on narcissism in entrepreneurship and leadership paints a mixed picture rather than a simple one.

Narcissistic traits can sometimes be associated with charisma, bold vision, innovation, and willingness to pursue ambitious opportunities.

Other research connects higher CEO narcissism with consequential strategic behaviors, including risk-taking and acquisition activity.

Organizational outcomes depend on context, the particular expression of narcissistic traits, and the governance structures surrounding the leader.

This is particularly relevant for founders because their personal characteristics can have unusually direct influence on strategy, culture, and decision-making.

Personality matters. Governance determines how much freedom personality has to shape the company.

 

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

If you believe your co-founder has strong narcissistic traits, resist the temptation to make the diagnosis your entire strategy.

Look at the operating reality.

Can you rely on agreements?

Can responsibility be shared?

Can both founders receive accurate information?

Can disagreement remain professional?

Are decision rights clear?

Can boundaries be established?

Can the company function without continuously compensating for one person’s behavior?

And perhaps most importantly:

What needs to happen next for you and the company to remain capable of making sound decisions?

The answer may involve communication.

Governance.

Documentation.

Legal advice.

Restructuring.

Or a fundamental decision about the partnership.

Clarity begins when you stop trying to win the diagnosis and start addressing the actual system.

 

 

 

 

Dealing With a Difficult Co-Founder or Business Partner?

 

When ownership, relationships, responsibility, and power are intertwined, the next move deserves careful thought.

Executive Sparring can help you:

separate facts from interpretations,

understand the dynamics,

clarify your options,

prepare an important conversation,

test different scenarios,

and decide what deserves to happen next.

I work primarily with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

→ Executive Sparring

→ Dealing With a Difficult Shareholder

→ High-Stakes Communication

→ Fees & Booking

→ Discuss Your Situation

 

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders on important decisions, difficult business relationships, shareholder and partner conflicts, negotiations, and high-stakes professional situations.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching work.

→ About Karsten Noack

Compassionate Support for Those Affected by Narcissists

(Note: This is not legal advice—consult a legal professional for legal issues.)

 

 

Understanding the Challenge

 

Dealing with narcissistic individuals can lead to intense emotional pain, confusion, and exhaustion. I understand that many of you are facing an overwhelming situation, feeling isolated and unsure where to turn. My goal is to provide you with clear, compassionate support to help you regain control and navigate through this challenging time.

 

 

Immediate Support and Appointment Options

 

If you need urgent help, I strive to be available at short notice, often even on the same day. This is possible thanks to immediate bank transfer options. A 60-minute phone call is typically sufficient to address urgent concerns, provide support, and create clarity. You have several options for appointments:

  • In-person meetings: Available in Berlin.
  • Phone consultations: Flexible and convenient.
  • Video sessions: Internet-based video conferencing for a face-to-face experience.

 

If you are looking for guidance in making decisions, communicating effectively, or managing emotional distress due to narcissistic relationships, I am here to arrange a session that suits your needs.

 

 

Booking an Appointment

 

Due to the high volume of requests, my volunteer assistance must remain limited. However, I am committed to providing professional support—whether you need therapeutic help or coaching (excluding legal advice).

Appointments can be booked:

 

For your convenience, sessions can be arranged quickly thanks to real-time bank transfers. You may schedule an appointment first or, for even faster service, book directly. Once the fee is received, we will find the next available slot to suit your schedule.

 

 

Therapeutic Support and Reduced Fees

 

If you are experiencing the psychological effects of narcissistic abuse, I offer specialized therapeutic support. My goal is to help you overcome the confusion and pain caused by narcissistic relationships. Additionally, reduced rates are available specifically for therapeutic assistance related to narcissistic abuse, as I recognize the burden these experiences can place on your well-being.

 

 

Financial Limitations and Alternative Support

 

I understand that not everyone has the financial means to afford professional support. In such cases, I invite you to use the comment section as a platform to connect and share experiences with others facing similar challenges. I occasionally provide responses there, offering guidance that may help you move forward.

To further assist, I offer a free initial consultation by phone on the first Monday of each month, from 9:00 AM to 12:00 PM. This is my way of giving back and helping those in need of immediate guidance. To access this free service, please call +49 (0)30 864 213 65. Note that calls outside these hours or to other phone numbers will be handled exclusively as part of professional support.

 

 

Questions and Private Concerns

 

For questions that could benefit others, feel free to ask in the comment section. Sharing these questions helps others understand that they are not alone and provides collective insights. For more private matters, I am available for professional support.

To arrange an appointment, discuss support options, or address organizational questions, please reach out via email at mail@karstennoack.com or better please use the contact form.

 

 

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Thank you for your understanding regarding my procedures and the limitations I face due to the high volume of requests. Your courage in seeking support is commendable, and I am here to provide guidance, compassion, and clarity on your journey.

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Why Do Narcissistic People Lie? What Research Says — and What Matters at Work

Why Do Narcissistic People Lie? What Research Says — and What Matters at Work

Understanding Narcissistic Lying
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Why Do Narcissistic People Lie? What Research Says — and What Matters at Work

People with strong narcissistic traits may be more willing to distort information when doing so protects status, self-image, influence, or personal advantage. The more useful question in business is often less “Is this person a narcissist?” and more “What can I still rely on?”

 

Your business partner tells you:

“We agreed on that.”

You remember a very different conversation.

Your co-founder presents your idea as their own.

A senior executive describes a failed project as somebody else’s responsibility.

A commitment suddenly becomes:

“I never promised that.”

And when you produce evidence, the story changes again.

Experiences like these can be profoundly disorienting.

They also create a practical business problem.

How do you work with someone when their version of reality appears to change according to what serves them now?

 

 

 

Do Narcissistic People Lie More?

 

Research suggests an association between narcissistic traits and some forms of dishonesty.

That deserves careful wording.

It does not mean that every person with narcissistic traits constantly lies.

It does not mean that every lie indicates narcissism.

And it certainly does not allow us to diagnose someone from a disputed conversation.

Research does show that higher levels of grandiose narcissism have been associated with greater willingness to engage in self-interested unethical behavior, including lying and cheating.

Studies have also found links between narcissistic traits and deception used to maintain a favorable self-image, gain advantage, or protect status.

The pattern is therefore more interesting than the simple statement:

“Narcissists lie.”

A more useful question is:

Under which circumstances does distortion become attractive to this person?

 

 

 

Narcissistic Traits and Narcissistic Personality Disorder Are Different

 

The word “narcissist” is widely used in everyday conversation.

Clinical psychology requires considerably more precision.

Narcissistic traits exist on a continuum.

They can include tendencies such as:

  • grandiosity
  • entitlement
  • status orientation
  • a strong need for admiration
  • sensitivity to criticism
  • self-enhancement
  • limited willingness to consider other perspectives

A diagnosis of Narcissistic Personality Disorder requires qualified clinical assessment.

In professional life, you usually need something else first:

a clear view of observable behavior.

Which statements are reliable?

Which agreements remain stable?

What happens when responsibility is uncomfortable?

What happens when status is threatened?

What happens when facts contradict the person’s preferred story?

Those questions often matter more for your next decision than a diagnostic label.

 

 

 

Why Might Someone With Strong Narcissistic Traits Distort the Truth?

 

Different people lie for different reasons.

When strong narcissistic tendencies are involved, several motives can become particularly relevant.

 

1. Protecting a Preferred Self-Image

 

Some people need to experience themselves as unusually competent, successful, insightful, or important.

Information that supports this identity is welcome.

Information that threatens it creates tension.

That can encourage distortions such as:

  • exaggerating achievements
  • minimizing mistakes
  • claiming greater responsibility for success
  • reducing responsibility for failure
  • reinterpreting past events

The function of the distortion may be both interpersonal and internal.

It shapes how other people see the person.

It may also help preserve the story the person tells about themselves.

 

 

2. Protecting Status

 

Truth becomes uncomfortable when it threatens rank or authority.

An executive made the wrong call.

A founder ignored repeated warnings.

A manager promised something they could not deliver.

A business partner overestimated their contribution.

Acknowledging the facts may feel like losing status.

Then a different narrative can become attractive.

Someone else misunderstood.

The circumstances changed.

The information was incomplete.

The team failed to execute.

The agreement supposedly meant something different.

Watch especially carefully when accountability and status collide.

 

 

3. Gaining an Advantage

 

Sometimes deception is straightforwardly instrumental.

The person wants:

  • a deal
  • money
  • authority
  • recognition
  • a promotion
  • control
  • support from stakeholders
  • a stronger negotiating position

Information can then be selectively presented, exaggerated, concealed, or reframed to improve their position.

This is particularly relevant in negotiations, shareholder conflicts, hiring decisions, partnerships, and internal power struggles.

 

 

4. Avoiding Responsibility

 

Responsibility is easier to accept when it fits your self-image.

It becomes harder when it implies:

“I was wrong.”

“I caused this.”

“I failed to notice something important.”

“Someone else understood this better than I did.”

A self-protective narrative may then move responsibility elsewhere.

Watch for recurring patterns rather than one defensive moment.

 

 

5. Controlling How Other People See the Situation

 

Influence is easier when you control the story.

In organizational conflicts, this may mean presenting different versions to different people.

The investor hears one account.

The management team hears another.

The shareholder receives a third.

The employee at the center of the conflict never hears what is being said elsewhere.

The result is more than dishonesty.

It becomes information management as a form of power.

 

 

 

Not Every Distortion Is a Deliberate Lie

 

This distinction matters.

People can describe the same situation differently without intentionally deceiving one another.

Memory is imperfect.

Perception is selective.

Interests influence interpretation.

People simplify complex events.

And all of us can remember situations in ways that support our preferred understanding of ourselves.

Therefore, before concluding that someone is lying, consider several possibilities:

  • different memories
  • different interpretations
  • poor communication
  • ambiguous agreements
  • selective attention
  • self-deception
  • deliberate deception

The practical response becomes stronger when it is based on evidence rather than mind-reading.

 

 

 

Self-Deception Can Matter Too

 

A person may communicate something inaccurate and still experience their own version as convincing.

This can make disputes particularly frustrating.

You present facts.

The other person appears completely certain.

You add documentation.

They reinterpret the documentation.

You explain the previous agreement.

The meaning of the agreement changes.

At that point, arguing about whether the person “knows they are lying” may contribute very little.

A more useful question is:

Can this professional relationship still produce reliable agreements and decisions?

 

 

 

Common Forms of Deception in Business

 

Dishonesty rarely appears only as an obvious false statement.

It can take several forms.

 

Direct Falsehood

A statement is factually false.

For example:

“The client approved it.”

“The board already agreed.”

“I spoke with them yesterday.”

 

Omission

Relevant information is withheld.

The facts presented may technically be accurate while the missing information changes their meaning substantially.

 

Exaggeration

Success becomes larger.

Authority becomes broader.

Support becomes more widespread.

Risk becomes smaller.

 

Selective Framing

Only the facts that support one interpretation are emphasized.

Everything else disappears from the story.

 

Revision of Agreements

After the fact, a conversation is described differently from how others understood it.

“That was never the agreement.”

“You misunderstood.”

“I said we would consider it.”

 

False Attribution

Success is claimed personally.

Failure is attributed elsewhere.

Ideas change ownership.

Warnings are remembered selectively.

 

Triangulation

Different people receive different stories.

This creates alliances, confusion, and dependence on the person controlling the information.

 

 

 

When Does This Become Gaslighting?

 

The term “gaslighting” is now used for many disagreements.

That weakens its usefulness.

A factual disagreement is not automatically gaslighting.

Neither is poor memory.

Neither is somebody having a different interpretation.

Gaslighting refers more specifically to a pattern in which a person repeatedly manipulates another person’s perception of reality in ways that can create confusion and self-doubt.

In business, warning signs may include recurring attempts to make you question clearly documented events:

“That meeting never happened that way.”

“Everybody else understood me.”

“You are imagining problems again.”

“You always misunderstand these things.”

“You are too emotional to remember this accurately.”

The essential point is the pattern.

One disagreement tells you little.

Repeated reality disputes combined with power, manipulation, and shifting narratives deserve much closer attention.

 

 

 

Why Blatant Lies Can Be So Disorienting

 

Subtle deception is easier to understand.

An obviously false statement can be more confusing.

You may think:

“They know that I know.”

“The documents are right there.”

“Three other people were in the meeting.”

“How can they say this with such confidence?”

Confidence can easily be mistaken for truth.

It is better treated as confidence.

A calm voice does not verify a statement.

Anger does not verify a statement.

Certainty does not verify a statement.

Repeated assertion does not verify a statement.

Evidence verifies a statement.

 

 

 

Stop Arguing About Character. Start Managing Reliability.

 

Suppose you suspect that your co-founder, shareholder, executive colleague, or business partner regularly distorts information.

You may be tempted to say:

“You are a liar.”

Or:

“You are a narcissist.”

Both statements shift the conversation toward identity.

The other person can now defend their character instead of addressing the business issue.

Focus on what can be demonstrated.

For example:

“The written agreement from May assigns this decision to both managing directors. Yesterday the commitment was made without that approval. We need to clarify how decisions of this type will be handled from now on.”

This keeps the conversation where it belongs:

  • behavior
  • agreement
  • responsibility
  • consequence
  • next step

 

 

 

Seven Ways to Protect Decision Quality

 

1. Document Important Agreements

 

After consequential conversations, create a shared written record.

Keep it simple:

  • What was decided?
  • Who is responsible?
  • Which deadline applies?
  • What happens next?

A written summary reduces later ambiguity.

 

 

2. Separate Facts From Interpretation

 

Ask:

What can we verify?

What is interpretation?

What remains uncertain?

This distinction becomes particularly valuable when emotions and interests run high.

 

 

3. Verify Consequential Claims

 

When an important decision depends on a claim, verify it independently where appropriate.

This may concern:

  • client commitments
  • financial information
  • contracts
  • approval
  • deadlines
  • stakeholder positions
  • technical claims

Trust and verification can coexist.

 

 

4. Clarify Decision Rights

 

Repeated disputes become more dangerous when nobody knows who has authority.

Make roles explicit.

Who decides?

Who needs to be consulted?

Who needs to approve?

Who needs to be informed?

Good governance reduces the power of narrative manipulation.

 

 

5. Avoid Endless Reality Debates

 

Once you have enough information to make the next decision, further argument may add little value.

You do not need universal agreement about the past to create a clear process for the future.

 

 

6. Watch Patterns, Not Isolated Incidents

 

Everyone gets something wrong.

Everyone remembers selectively at times.

Everyone occasionally communicates poorly.

The concern grows when you repeatedly see:

  • self-serving revisions
  • shifting responsibility
  • different stories for different audiences
  • agreements that repeatedly change afterward
  • attacks on people who produce contradictory evidence

 

 

7. Decide What Reliability the Role Requires

 

The central business question may eventually become:

What level of reliability does this role require — and do we have it?

A minor exaggeration from a peripheral contact has one level of consequence.

Repeated misinformation from a managing director, co-founder, shareholder, or finance leader creates another.

Role and consequence matter.

 

 

 

If You Are Preparing a Difficult Conversation

 

When reliability is already disputed, prepare carefully.

Before the conversation, clarify:

  • What exactly happened?
  • Which facts can you document?
  • Which part remains interpretation?
  • What do you need from the conversation?
  • Which decision needs to be made?
  • Where are your boundaries?
  • Which reactions are predictable?
  • How will you respond if the discussion becomes personal?

A useful principle is:

Do not enter the conversation to prove the other person’s personality. Enter it to address the situation.

→ Prepare an Important Conversation or Negotiation

 

 

 

When the Difficult Person Is Your Co-Founder

 

A co-founder relationship creates special risks.

You may share:

  • ownership
  • financial commitments
  • employees
  • clients
  • intellectual property
  • decision authority
  • personal guarantees
  • a public reputation

When trust in information begins to deteriorate, the issue quickly becomes larger than communication.

Governance matters.

Contracts matter.

Decision rights matter.

Documentation matters.

And some questions deserve qualified legal, financial, or tax advice.

→ Narcissistic Patterns in a Co-Founder Relationship

 

 

 

When the Difficult Person Is a Leader

 

A leader’s relationship with truth can affect an entire organization.

Information may travel upward selectively.

Bad news may become dangerous to deliver.

Success may become personalized.

Failure may travel downward.

Employees may begin adapting what they report to what the leader wants to hear.

At that point, the problem extends beyond one person’s honesty.

The organization’s information system itself becomes less reliable.

That can affect strategy, risk management, personnel decisions, client relationships, and governance.

→ Narcissistic Patterns in Leadership

 

 

 

Manipulation and Lying Are Related — Yet Different

 

A person can manipulate without making a single factually false statement.

They can:

  • select information
  • create urgency
  • use guilt
  • control framing
  • change the subject
  • triangulate
  • apply social pressure

This is why focusing exclusively on whether a sentence is technically true may miss the wider dynamic.

Look at how information is being used.

→ Recognize Common Manipulation Techniques

 

 

 

 

A Question More Useful Than “Why Are They Lying?”

 

Understanding motives can help.

Yet you may never know precisely why another person said what they said.

Eventually another question becomes more useful:

What changes in my decisions once I know that this information source may be unreliable?

Perhaps you verify more.

Perhaps agreements become written.

Perhaps decision rights become clearer.

Perhaps another person joins important meetings.

Perhaps governance needs to change.

Perhaps trust can be rebuilt.

Perhaps the relationship itself needs reconsideration.

The useful insight is the one that changes your next action.

 

 

 

 

What Research Suggests

 

Research on narcissism and dishonesty is more nuanced than the popular idea that “narcissists simply lie all the time.”

Studies have found associations between higher narcissistic traits and greater willingness to engage in some forms of deception and self-interested unethical behavior.

Research also distinguishes narcissism from related traits such as Machiavellianism and psychopathy. Their patterns of deception are not identical.

This matters because personality characteristics influence behavior in interaction with opportunity, incentives, risk, and context.

A personality trait increases our understanding of a pattern. It does not allow us to predict every action of an individual.

 

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

Why might people with strong narcissistic tendencies lie or distort information?

Possible motives include:

  • protecting self-image
  • maintaining status
  • avoiding responsibility
  • gaining advantage
  • controlling how others understand a situation

Yet the most important question for you may be more practical.

Can you rely on the information, the agreements, and the person’s accountability when the stakes rise?

When the answer becomes uncertain, respond to what you can observe.

Document.

Verify.

Clarify authority.

Prepare important conversations.

Watch recurring patterns.

And make decisions based on the reliability the situation actually provides.

You do not need a diagnosis to take unreliable behavior seriously.

 

 

 

 

Dealing With an Unreliable Business Partner, Shareholder, or Executive?

 

Understanding the pattern may be the first step.

The harder question is often:

What do you do next?

Executive Sparring can help you examine the situation, separate facts from interpretation, clarify your options, and prepare an important conversation or decision.

I work primarily with executives, business owners, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

→ Executive Sparring

→ High-Stakes Communication

→ Fees & Booking

→ Discuss Your Situation

 

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with executives, business owners, and senior leaders on important decisions, difficult professional relationships, conversations, negotiations, and situations where careful preparation matters.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching work.

→ About Karsten Noack

Compassionate Support for Those Affected by Narcissists

(Note: This is not legal advice—consult a legal professional for legal issues.)

 

 

Understanding the Challenge

 

Dealing with narcissistic individuals can lead to intense emotional pain, confusion, and exhaustion. I understand that many of you are facing an overwhelming situation, feeling isolated and unsure where to turn. My goal is to provide you with clear, compassionate support to help you regain control and navigate through this challenging time.

 

 

Immediate Support and Appointment Options

 

If you need urgent help, I strive to be available at short notice, often even on the same day. This is possible thanks to immediate bank transfer options. A 60-minute phone call is typically sufficient to address urgent concerns, provide support, and create clarity. You have several options for appointments:

  • In-person meetings: Available in Berlin.
  • Phone consultations: Flexible and convenient.
  • Video sessions: Internet-based video conferencing for a face-to-face experience.

 

If you are looking for guidance in making decisions, communicating effectively, or managing emotional distress due to narcissistic relationships, I am here to arrange a session that suits your needs.

 

 

Booking an Appointment

 

Due to the high volume of requests, my volunteer assistance must remain limited. However, I am committed to providing professional support—whether you need therapeutic help or coaching (excluding legal advice).

Appointments can be booked:

 

For your convenience, sessions can be arranged quickly thanks to real-time bank transfers. You may schedule an appointment first or, for even faster service, book directly. Once the fee is received, we will find the next available slot to suit your schedule.

 

 

Therapeutic Support and Reduced Fees

 

If you are experiencing the psychological effects of narcissistic abuse, I offer specialized therapeutic support. My goal is to help you overcome the confusion and pain caused by narcissistic relationships. Additionally, reduced rates are available specifically for therapeutic assistance related to narcissistic abuse, as I recognize the burden these experiences can place on your well-being.

 

 

Financial Limitations and Alternative Support

 

I understand that not everyone has the financial means to afford professional support. In such cases, I invite you to use the comment section as a platform to connect and share experiences with others facing similar challenges. I occasionally provide responses there, offering guidance that may help you move forward.

To further assist, I offer a free initial consultation by phone on the first Monday of each month, from 9:00 AM to 12:00 PM. This is my way of giving back and helping those in need of immediate guidance. To access this free service, please call +49 (0)30 864 213 65. Note that calls outside these hours or to other phone numbers will be handled exclusively as part of professional support.

 

 

Questions and Private Concerns

 

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Manipulation at Work: Recognize Pressure, Distortion and Hidden Influence

Signs & Strategies
17 hints that someone is a manipulator

Manipulation at Work: Recognize Pressure, Distortion and Hidden Influence

 

How to recognize manipulative patterns in professional relationships without jumping to conclusions or losing your ability to act.

Not every difficult conversation is manipulation.

Not every disagreement is a power game.

And not every difficult colleague, manager, shareholder, or business partner has a hidden agenda.

Still, professional relationships sometimes contain patterns that make clear thinking harder.

Pressure.

Selective information.

Changing accounts of agreements.

Artificial urgency.

Guilt.

Triangulation.

Personal attacks.

When several of these patterns occur repeatedly, it is worth looking more closely.

The useful question is not: “What kind of person is this?”

The useful question is: “What is happening, how does it affect the business situation, and what can I do?”

 

 

 

What Do We Mean by Manipulation?

 

Influence is part of professional life.

We persuade.

Negotiate.

Recommend.

Argue.

Try to gain support.

That alone is not manipulation.

Manipulation becomes a useful description when influence relies on hidden pressure, distortion, deception, or unfair use of another person’s vulnerabilities while meaningful information or intentions remain obscured.

The distinction is important.

Transparent influence gives the other person room to decide.

Manipulation reduces that room while concealing how the influence is being created.

 

 

 

Look for Patterns Rather Than Isolated Incidents

 

One uncomfortable conversation proves very little.

One forgotten agreement does not establish manipulation.

One emotional reaction does not tell you everything about a person.

Patterns matter.

Ask:

  • Does the behavior repeat?
  • Does it appear when important decisions are at stake?
  • Does the story change depending on the audience?
  • Does pressure increase when you ask for clarity?
  • Does the behavior systematically benefit one side?

Repeated patterns deserve more attention than isolated moments.

 

 

 

1. Facts Keep Changing

 

You remember one agreement.

The other person later describes something different.

That can happen innocently.

Memory is imperfect.

It becomes more significant when agreements repeatedly change in ways that advantage the same person.

A practical response:

  • summarize important agreements
  • confirm them in writing where appropriate
  • distinguish facts from interpretation

 

 

 

2. Important Information Arrives Too Late

 

Information is power.

When relevant information is systematically delayed, selectively shared, or withheld, your ability to make good decisions decreases.

Examples include:

  • important meetings happen without you
  • you learn about commitments after they have been made
  • key data appears only after you challenge a decision
  • different stakeholders receive different information

Ask:

What information do I need in order to make a responsible decision?

 

 

 

 

3. Artificial Urgency

 

Pressure often becomes stronger when time feels scarce.

You may hear:

“We need an answer now.”

“If you do not agree today, the opportunity is gone.”

“There is no time to involve anyone else.”

Sometimes urgency is real.

Sometimes it is created to reduce scrutiny.

A useful question is:

What actually happens if I take another hour, another day, or seek another perspective?

 

 

 

 

4. Guilt Replaces Argument

 

Professional disagreement should be discussable through facts, interests, consequences, and responsibilities.

Manipulative pressure may shift the conversation toward your character.

For example:

“If you really supported the team, you would agree.”

“I thought I could rely on you.”

“After everything I have done for you…”

Ask:

What is the actual business argument?

Bring the discussion back to the issue.

 

 

 

5. Your Boundaries Are Repeatedly Tested

 

A boundary may be respected once it has been clarified.

Or the other person may repeatedly test whether the boundary is real.

Examples include:

  • scope repeatedly expands without agreement
  • decisions are made outside agreed authority
  • deadlines are imposed without consultation
  • private or inappropriate pressure continues after you address it

A boundary becomes meaningful when the consequence of ignoring it is also clear.

 

 

 

6. Responsibility Constantly Moves Elsewhere

 

Mistakes happen.

Strong professional relationships allow people to acknowledge them.

A problematic pattern appears when responsibility repeatedly shifts:

to you,

to the team,

to circumstances,

to someone who is not present.

Ask:

  • What was agreed?
  • Who owned the decision?
  • What was within each person’s control?

Responsibility becomes clearer when it is tied to specific decisions and actions.

 

 

 

7. The Conversation Keeps Moving Away From the Issue

 

You raise one concrete problem.

Suddenly the discussion becomes about:

  • your personality
  • a mistake you made months ago
  • someone else’s behavior
  • your tone
  • something only loosely related

These topics may occasionally be relevant.

They can also function as distraction.

You can say:

“We can discuss that separately. First I want to finish the issue we started with.”

 

 

 

8. Different People Receive Different Versions

 

A concerning pattern can appear when the same event is described differently to different people.

This creates confusion.

It may also create alliances.

When this matters professionally, reduce ambiguity.

Use:

  • shared meetings
  • written summaries
  • clear decision records
  • direct communication

Transparency reduces the space in which contradictory narratives can thrive.

 

 

 

9. Triangulation

 

Instead of speaking directly with you, another person brings in third parties.

For example:

“Everyone agrees with me.”

“The board is unhappy with you.”

“Several people have complained.”

Sometimes this information is genuine.

Sometimes it creates pressure without giving you anything concrete to evaluate.

Ask:

  • Who specifically?
  • What specifically was said?
  • Is this feedback I can address directly?

Where appropriate, move communication back toward the people actually involved.

 

 

 

10. Pressure Increases When You Ask Questions

 

Healthy professional relationships can usually tolerate reasonable questions.

A warning sign may be that requests for clarification lead to:

  • anger
  • ridicule
  • personal attacks
  • accusations of disloyalty
  • even greater urgency

Your question may still be inconvenient.

That does not automatically make it inappropriate.

 

 

 

11. Agreements Remain Deliberately Vague

 

Ambiguity can be useful when someone wants flexibility without accountability.

Listen for vague formulations around:

  • responsibility
  • deadlines
  • scope
  • decision authority
  • financial commitments

Clarify:

Who does what by when?

And:

What exactly are we agreeing to?

 

 

 

12. Favors Become Hidden Obligations

 

Cooperation naturally includes reciprocity.

The problem begins when an apparently voluntary favor later becomes leverage.

“I did this for you, so now you owe me.”

If an exchange is expected, it is usually healthier to make that expectation visible from the beginning.

 

 

 

13. Status Is Used Instead of Reasoning

 

Status can influence professional decisions legitimately.

A CEO has different decision rights from a junior employee.

A shareholder may have formal authority.

The problem is using status to avoid the actual issue.

For example:

“You know who you are talking to.”

“People at my level do not have to explain this.”

Formal authority may settle who decides.

It does not automatically make the reasoning sound.

 

 

 

14. Praise and Personal Attention Become Leverage

 

Positive feedback is normal.

Relationships matter.

It becomes worth examining when approval appears mainly before a request and disappears when you set limits.

Ask yourself:

Am I evaluating the proposal itself, or am I responding to the relationship pressure around it?

 

 

 

15. You Are Pressured to Decide Before You Can Verify

 

High-quality decisions often require:

  • information
  • comparison
  • consultation
  • specialist advice

If someone actively prevents reasonable verification, ask why.

You may say:

“I will decide once I have reviewed the relevant information.”

 

 

 

16. Criticism Becomes Personal

 

You question a plan.

The answer becomes:

“You are always negative.”

You challenge a number.

You hear:

“You clearly do not understand the business.”

Return to the issue.

“We can discuss my perspective separately. Right now I am asking how this number was calculated.”

 

 

 

17. The Other Person Defines Your Motives for You

 

Another common pattern is telling you why you are doing something.

“You only oppose this because you feel threatened.”

“You want control.”

“You are saying this because you are insecure.”

You do not have to defend yourself against every interpretation.

You can return to the substantive question.

 

 

 

18. Overpromising

 

Promises can keep a relationship going long after evidence suggests caution.

Watch for repeated cycles:

big promise,

temporary reassurance,

little follow-through,

another promise.

Where promises matter professionally, translate them into:

  • specific commitments
  • dates
  • responsibilities
  • measurable outcomes

 

 

 

19. Rules Change After the Fact

 

You meet the agreed condition.

Then another condition appears.

You deliver what was requested.

Suddenly the standard changes.

Occasionally circumstances genuinely change.

A repeated pattern deserves attention.

Clarify criteria before the next decision.

 

 

 

20. You Are Encouraged to Distrust Independent Perspectives

 

Someone may discourage you from involving:

  • another executive
  • a board member
  • a lawyer
  • a financial adviser
  • an external coach or sparring partner

There may be legitimate reasons for confidentiality.

Still, important decisions sometimes benefit from independent scrutiny.

If a decision cannot survive reasonable examination, that itself is useful information.

 

 

 

21. Your Perception Is Repeatedly Dismissed

 

People remember events differently.

Disagreement about perception is normal.

The problem becomes more serious when your account is repeatedly dismissed without engagement.

Instead of debating whose memory is superior, return to evidence where possible.

Emails.

Minutes.

Contracts.

Messages.

Agreed processes.

Reliable records reduce unnecessary arguments about memory.

 

 

 

22. You Leave Conversations More Confused Than Before

 

Some difficult conversations create clarity even when there is disagreement.

Others create more confusion.

You entered with one question.

You leave discussing five new accusations.

The original issue remains unresolved.

If this becomes a pattern, change the structure of the conversation.

Prepare an agenda.

Use specific questions.

Summarize decisions.

Document next steps.

 

 

 

Your Gut Feeling Is Information, Not Proof

 

You may have a strong sense that something is wrong before you can explain why.

Do not ignore that experience.

Do not treat it as final evidence either.

Use it as a prompt to examine the situation more carefully.

Ask:

  • What specifically triggered this reaction?
  • Which behavior did I notice?
  • Is there a repeated pattern?
  • What information would help me evaluate it?

Intuition can start an investigation. Evidence should guide important decisions.

 

 

 

Do Not Diagnose From a Distance

 

Terms such as:

narcissist,

psychopath,

toxic person,

gaslighter,

or manipulator

are often used very quickly.

They may describe an experience.

They do not necessarily provide a reliable professional diagnosis.

For business decisions, focus first on:

  • behavior
  • frequency
  • business consequences
  • agreements
  • decision rights
  • your available options

You do not need to diagnose someone to protect your interests.

 

 

 

How to Respond to Manipulative Pressure

 

The strongest response is usually greater clarity.

Clarify:

  • the facts
  • your objective
  • your authority
  • your limits
  • the decision process
  • what happens next

 

 

 

Slow the Decision Down When Necessary

 

Pressure works best when you react quickly.

If the situation allows it, create space.

You can say:

“I am not making that decision in this meeting.”

“I want to review the information first.”

“I will come back to you after I have considered the implications.”

A pause can restore decision quality.

 

 

 

Ask Specific Questions

 

Specific questions reduce ambiguity.

For example:

“What exactly are you asking me to approve?”

“Which agreement are you referring to?”

“Who has already approved this?”

“What happens if I decline?”

“What information supports that conclusion?”

Questions move the conversation back toward something you can evaluate.

 

 

 

Use Written Confirmation Where Appropriate

 

For important business matters, written summaries can reduce later confusion.

For example:

“To make sure we have the same understanding, this is what I believe we agreed…”

Then list:

  • decision
  • responsibilities
  • deadline
  • next step

This is especially useful when earlier agreements have repeatedly been disputed.

 

 

 

Strengthen Decision Processes

 

Sometimes the problem is larger than one difficult person.

The organization itself allows unclear influence.

Useful structures may include:

  • clear decision rights
  • defined approval processes
  • transparent information flows
  • meeting minutes
  • clear governance
  • separation of roles

Good structures reduce dependence on interpersonal trust alone.

 

 

 

Manipulation and Executive Sparring

 

Executive Sparring can be valuable when manipulative or highly difficult behavior appears in a consequential business relationship.

For example:

  • a managing director
  • a co-founder
  • a shareholder
  • a business partner
  • a senior stakeholder

We may work on:

  • what is actually happening
  • which patterns are observable
  • where assumptions need testing
  • which interests are involved
  • your decision rights
  • your options
  • your boundaries
  • your next conversation

The aim is not to establish a personality label.

The aim is to restore clarity and your ability to act.

→ Explore Executive Sparring

 

 

 

Manipulation and High-Stakes Communication

A difficult pattern may eventually lead to one particularly important conversation or negotiation.

Then preparation can focus on:

  • your objective
  • your key message
  • questions
  • likely pressure tactics
  • boundaries
  • possible responses
  • the conclusion you need

→ Explore High-Stakes Communication

When Business Coaching Is Enough

Business Coaching may be appropriate when your primary objective is developing general professional skills such as:

  • setting boundaries
  • becoming more assertive
  • handling pressure
  • asking clearer questions
  • recognizing unproductive communication patterns

If the situation involves ownership, senior responsibility, substantial business consequences, or complex power dynamics, Executive Sparring is generally the stronger fit.

→ Explore Business Coaching

 

 

 

Shareholders and Business Partners

 

Manipulative behavior becomes particularly consequential when ownership or governance is involved.

In these situations, questions may include:

  • Who has which decision rights?
  • Who receives which information?
  • Which agreements are documented?
  • How are deadlocks handled?
  • What alternatives do you have?

→ Shareholder & Business Partner Conflicts

 

 

 

When Specialist Advice Is Needed

 

Some situations extend beyond coaching or Executive Sparring.

If the issue involves:

  • contracts
  • employment law
  • corporate governance
  • financial obligations
  • regulatory questions
  • tax consequences

qualified specialist advice is essential.

Executive Sparring can complement that advice by helping you think through communication, decision-making, stakeholders, and your own strategy.

It does not replace legal, tax, financial, or regulatory advice.

 

 

 

My Approach

 

My professional background combines engineering, management, business consulting, communication, coaching, psychology, and more than 25 years of work with professionals and leaders.

This combination is useful because manipulative dynamics in business rarely involve communication alone.

They may also involve:

  • power
  • interests
  • governance
  • decision-making
  • leadership
  • human behavior

I focus on practical clarity.

What is happening?

What evidence do you have?

What matters?

What are your options?

And what do you want to do next?

→ About Karsten Noack

 

 

 

Frequently Asked Questions

 

How do I know whether someone is manipulating me?

You may not always know another person’s intention with certainty.

Focus on repeated observable behavior, the effect on decision-making, and whether relevant information or freedom to choose is being unfairly restricted.

Is all influence manipulation?

No.

Influence, persuasion, negotiation, and advocacy are normal parts of professional life.

The distinction becomes important when influence relies on hidden pressure, deception, distortion, or unfair exploitation.

Should I trust my gut feeling?

Treat it as information worth examining, not as proof.

What if agreements are repeatedly denied?

Increase clarity and documentation where appropriate.

Summarize important decisions, responsibilities, and deadlines in writing.

Should I confront the person?

That depends on the situation, power structure, risks, and your objective.

Preparation is particularly useful when the relationship has significant professional consequences.

Can Executive Sparring help with a manipulative business partner?

Yes.

The focus is on your situation, evidence, options, boundaries, decision-making, and communication.

Can you diagnose whether the other person is narcissistic?

No reliable diagnosis can be made from a third-party description alone.

For professional decisions, observable behavior and its consequences are usually more useful anyway.

 

 

 

Your Next Step

 

If you are dealing with pressure, manipulation, or a highly difficult professional relationship, send me a brief description of the situation.

Helpful information includes:

  • your role
  • the role of the other person
  • what has happened
  • which pattern concerns you
  • what is at stake
  • what decision or conversation lies ahead
  • whether you prefer Berlin, online, or phone

A short outline is enough.

You do not need to diagnose the other person.

We can begin with what you observe and what you need to decide.

→ Request a Session

Contact Me for More Information

 

If you have specific questions or want to know more about how I can help, just ask me directly. For questions that might interest others, please feel free to post them in the comments section below.

 

 

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Narcissism and Apologies: Look for Accountability

Narcissism and Apologies: Look for Accountability, Not Just “I’m Sorry”

Do people with narcissistic traits apologize?
Expecting apologies from narcissists

Narcissism and Apologies: Look for Accountability, Not Just “I’m Sorry”

 

You may be waiting for an apology.

From a business partner.

A co-founder.

A managing director.

A senior colleague.

Someone made an important decision without you.

Misrepresented what happened.

Broke an agreement.

Took credit.

Shifted responsibility.

Or treated you in a way that damaged trust.

And part of you thinks:

“If this person would simply admit what happened and apologize, perhaps we could move forward.”

Perhaps.

Yet when an important professional relationship has been damaged, the word sorry is only one small piece of the information you need.

The more important question is whether the person can acknowledge what happened, accept appropriate responsibility, contribute to repair, and behave differently afterwards.

 

 

 

Do People With Narcissistic Traits Apologize Less?

 

Research suggests that higher narcissistic traits can be associated with lower willingness to apologize.

That statement needs nuance.

Narcissism is not one single quality.

Researchers distinguish different narcissistic dimensions and facets.

For example, one study found that antagonistic narcissism — sometimes described as narcissistic rivalry — was associated with lower willingness to apologize and less apologizing behavior.

More agentic aspects of narcissism, such as narcissistic admiration, did not show the same relationship in that study.

This matters.

It means the useful conclusion is not:

“Narcissists never apologize.”

A more defensible conclusion is:

Certain narcissistic patterns can make acknowledging wrongdoing and offering a meaningful apology more difficult.

 

 

 

You Do Not Need a Diagnosis

 

In a difficult professional relationship, you may wonder:

“Is this person a narcissist?”

That question can become absorbing.

It may also distract you from the information that matters most.

You can observe whether someone:

  • acknowledges mistakes
  • accepts responsibility
  • responds constructively to criticism
  • shows concern for the consequences of their actions
  • repairs agreements after violating them
  • changes behavior after a conflict

You do not need to diagnose Narcissistic Personality Disorder in order to take recurring patterns seriously.

Manage the behavior and its consequences. Leave clinical diagnosis to qualified clinicians working with the person directly.

 

 

 

Why Apologies Matter

 

A meaningful apology can serve several functions.

It can communicate:

  • I recognize that something happened.
  • I understand that it affected you.
  • I accept my part in it.
  • I regret the harm.
  • I am willing to repair what can be repaired.
  • I intend to act differently.

Research consistently finds that apologies can support forgiveness and relational repair.

They can also communicate that the relationship still has value.

Yet the effectiveness of an apology depends on more than the presence of the words:

“I’m sorry.”

An apology becomes credible when language and subsequent behavior point in the same direction.

 

 

 

What Makes an Apology Meaningful?

 

There is no single mandatory formula.

Useful apologies often contain several elements.

 

1. Recognition

The person identifies what happened.

For example:

“I approved the expenditure before we had the agreement required under our process.”

 

2. Responsibility

They acknowledge their part.

“That was my decision, and I should have involved you first.”

 

3. Recognition of Impact

They show some understanding of the consequence.

“I understand that this undermined the agreement we had about joint decisions.”

 

4. Regret

The apology contains genuine regret rather than irritation about being confronted.

“I’m sorry.”

 

5. Repair

Where repair is possible, they contribute to it.

“I will correct the communication with the client and clarify that the decision was not jointly approved.”

 

6. Future Behavior

The person demonstrates what should happen differently next time.

“For commitments above this threshold, I will wait for written approval from both of us.”

The words matter. What happens after the words matters more.

 

 

 

A Useful Test: What Exactly Is the Person Apologizing For?

 

Some apologies sound sincere until you examine what they acknowledge.

Consider:

“I’m sorry things became so difficult.”

What responsibility has been accepted?

None necessarily.

Or:

“I’m sorry you were upset.”

The speaker has recognized your reaction.

They have not necessarily acknowledged any problematic behavior.

Or:

“I’m sorry this was misunderstood.”

Who created the misunderstanding?

What actually happened?

The sentence remains conveniently vague.

Listen for whether the apology names the behavior or merely describes the uncomfortable aftermath.

 

 

 

“I’m Sorry You Feel That Way”

 

This sentence receives considerable attention in discussions about narcissism.

Context matters.

Sometimes a person genuinely regrets your distress while disagreeing with your interpretation of events.

In other situations, the sentence functions as a way to avoid responsibility.

The important question is:

What follows?

Does the person explore what happened?

Do they acknowledge any contribution of their own?

Can they discuss the impact?

Do they help repair the situation?

One sentence alone rarely tells you enough.

 

 

 

The Conditional Apology

 

Another familiar version is:

“If I offended you, I apologize.”

Sometimes this reflects genuine uncertainty about what happened.

Sometimes it preserves distance from responsibility.

Compare:

“If you felt excluded, I’m sorry.”

with:

“I held the meeting without inviting you even though the issue falls within your responsibility. I should have included you.”

The second version gives you something much more concrete.

 

 

 

The Apology That Immediately Becomes an Accusation

 

Perhaps you hear:

“Fine, I’m sorry — but you did exactly the same thing last month.”

Now two different issues have been combined.

The other concern may deserve attention.

It does not erase responsibility for the first one.

You can say:

“I am willing to discuss my part as well. First I want us to finish this issue.”

Accountability becomes difficult when every admission immediately requires somebody else to be equally guilty.

 

 

 

When “Sorry” Becomes a Shortcut to Ending the Conversation

 

An apology can also be used to close a subject prematurely.

“I already apologized. What more do you want?”

Sometimes that question is fair.

Perhaps the other person has taken responsibility, repaired what was possible, and you continue demanding another version of the same conversation.

In other cases, the apology is being used as a substitute for unresolved practical questions.

For example:

  • Who corrects the damage?
  • Which agreement applies now?
  • How will future decisions be made?
  • What happens if the behavior repeats?

An apology can begin repair. It does not automatically complete it.

 

 

 

Words, Repair, and Restitution Are Different Things

 

Imagine a business partner publicly makes an inaccurate statement about you.

They apologize privately.

Is that enough?

Perhaps the relevant repair requires correcting the inaccurate statement publicly as well.

Or someone commits company funds without authorization.

An apology may matter.

You may also need:

  • financial correction
  • clearer decision rights
  • documentation
  • changed approval procedures

Research on relational repair supports this distinction: apology and restitution can each contribute to forgiveness and repair.

Sometimes words repair the relationship. Sometimes repair also requires action.

 

 

 

Do Not Measure Sincerity by Emotion Alone

 

An emotional apology can feel more convincing.

Tears.

A trembling voice.

Visible shame.

Strong expressions of regret.

These reactions may be genuine.

They are not reliable proof that future behavior will change.

The reverse also matters.

Someone may communicate regret in a relatively controlled way and still take full responsibility.

Judge the apology by its content, its relationship to reality, and what follows — not only by emotional intensity.

 

 

 

Guilt and Shame Are Not the Same

 

Research on apology often distinguishes between guilt and shame.

Guilt is more closely focused on:

“I did something wrong.”

Shame is more closely associated with:

“There is something wrong with me.”

That distinction can matter because guilt may motivate repair.

Research has repeatedly found associations between guilt-proneness and greater willingness to apologize.

Shame produces more complicated responses.

Some people withdraw.

Some defend themselves.

Some become angry.

Feeling bad is not the same as taking responsibility.

 

 

 

Narcissism and Apology: What Research Suggests

 

Several studies have found a negative relationship between narcissistic traits and willingness to apologize.

A 2017 series of studies found that higher narcissism was associated with less willingness to apologize, with lower empathy and guilt helping to explain the relationship.

Importantly, the researchers found that the antagonistic dimension of narcissism — narcissistic rivalry — showed the clearest negative association with apology behavior.

A later series of studies also found that narcissism was associated with more nonapologetic responses after interpersonal transgressions, with the victim’s response influencing how strongly this pattern appeared.

This is useful evidence.

It still does not justify predicting the behavior of every individual from a label.

Traits change probabilities. They do not give you certainty about the person sitting across from you.

 

 

 

Do Not Turn Research Into a Script

 

Once you read that narcissistic traits are associated with lower apology willingness, it may become tempting to interpret everything through that lens.

“Of course he didn’t apologize. Narcissist.”

Or:

“She apologized. Therefore she cannot be narcissistic.”

Neither conclusion follows.

People apologize for many reasons.

They refuse apologies for many reasons.

Personality is one influence among others.

Context matters.

Power matters.

Relationship value matters.

Perceived responsibility matters.

Consequences matter.

Use research to improve questions, not to pretend you can read individual minds.

 

 

 

Can an Apology Be Strategic?

 

Of course.

This is not unique to narcissistic personalities.

People apologize for many reasons:

  • genuine remorse
  • relationship repair
  • reputation management
  • conflict reduction
  • commercial interests
  • pressure from others
  • legal or organizational considerations

A strategic motive does not automatically make every part of an apology false.

Human motives can be mixed.

A more useful question is:

Does the apology produce reliable accountability and repair?

 

 

 

When Someone Apologizes Only After Consequences Appear

 

A person denies wrongdoing.

Then a client complains.

Or a board member becomes involved.

Or documentation appears.

Suddenly an apology follows.

You may wonder whether it is sincere.

Perhaps it is.

Perhaps the consequences finally changed the person’s understanding.

Perhaps reputation became more important than responsibility.

You may never know with certainty.

So evaluate what you can observe:

  • Does the person acknowledge what happened?
  • Do they stop disputing established facts?
  • Do they repair the damage?
  • Do they change the process?
  • Does the behavior repeat?

You do not need perfect access to motive in order to make a sound business decision.

 

 

 

An Apology Does Not Automatically Restore Trust

 

This distinction is crucial.

Apology and trust are related.

They are not identical.

Imagine someone says:

“I was wrong. I’m sorry.”

You may accept the apology.

You may still decide that:

  • approval procedures need to change
  • information needs independent verification
  • financial authority should be limited
  • important agreements must be documented
  • you need greater distance in the relationship

Forgiveness, reconciliation, trust, and continued cooperation are separate decisions.

 

 

 

Accepting an Apology Does Not Require Returning to the Previous Arrangement

 

This is particularly important in business.

You can genuinely say:

“I accept your apology.”

and still say:

“From now on, these decisions require two signatures.”

Or:

“I am willing to continue working together, with clearer reporting.”

Or even:

“I accept the apology. I still believe ending the partnership is the right decision.”

An apology concerns the past.

Your decision about the relationship concerns the future.

 

 

 

What If There Is No Apology?

 

This is often the more important question.

You explain what happened.

The other person:

  • denies it
  • minimizes it
  • changes the subject
  • attacks you
  • blames somebody else
  • rewrites the agreement

You can spend enormous energy waiting for a sentence that may never arrive.

Your next decision does not need to depend on it.

Ask instead:

  • What do I know now?
  • What has this shown me about the relationship?
  • Which risk needs to be managed?
  • Which boundary is necessary?
  • Which structure needs to change?
  • What will I do if this happens again?

You can move forward without receiving the acknowledgment you would have preferred.

 

 

 

Do Not Argue for an Apology Indefinitely

 

An apology demanded repeatedly can become a strange goal.

You explain why the person should apologize.

They explain why they should not.

You produce more evidence.

They debate the wording.

Eventually the conversation becomes:

“Will you admit that I deserve an apology?”

Ask yourself:

What would the apology change?

If your real concern is:

  • future behavior
  • financial exposure
  • decision rights
  • trust
  • reliability

address those questions directly.

 

 

 

Ask for Accountability More Clearly

 

Instead of:

“I want an apology.”

you may need:

“I want us to clarify whether you agree that this decision violated our approval process.”

Or:

“I need you to correct the statement you made to the client.”

Or:

“I want a clear agreement on how these decisions will be made from now on.”

Or:

“Before I decide how we continue, I need to understand whether you see anything problematic in what happened.”

These questions give you more information than demanding the word sorry.

 

 

 

Ask: What Does the Person Believe They Did Wrong?

 

This is one of the most revealing questions after a conflict.

Suppose someone says:

“I already said I was sorry.”

You can ask:

“What exactly are you apologizing for?”

Not as a trap.

As information.

Perhaps they say:

“For upsetting you.”

That is different from:

“For giving the client a commitment after we had agreed that neither of us would make that decision alone.”

The content of responsibility tells you more than the presence of apology language.

 

 

 

Watch What Happens When You Name the Impact

 

You might say:

“After that decision, I no longer knew whether our approval agreement was reliable.”

Notice the response.

Does the person:

  • ask questions?
  • show curiosity?
  • acknowledge the impact?
  • immediately dispute your right to feel that way?
  • turn the conversation back to their own grievance?

One conversation does not define a personality.

Repeated patterns still provide important information.

 

 

 

Behavior After the Apology Is the Real Test

 

This is where many situations become clearer.

Someone offers an impressive apology.

Then two weeks later:

the same agreement is broken.

The same information is withheld.

The same responsibility is shifted.

The same explanation appears.

Now the problem is no longer whether the apology sounded sincere.

You have behavioral evidence.

A credible apology changes something.

 

 

 

One Apology Versus a Pattern

 

People fail.

A normally reliable colleague can become defensive.

A good business partner can give a poor apology.

A stressed executive can respond badly and reconsider later.

Do not build an entire personality assessment from one incident.

Look at patterns.

Over time:

  • Can the person acknowledge mistakes?
  • Can they revise their position?
  • Can they apologize without collapsing or counterattacking?
  • Can they repair trust?
  • Does learning occur?

Patterns are usually more informative than isolated performances.

 

 

 

When the Pattern Involves Narcissistic Rivalry

 

The antagonistic side of narcissism is particularly relevant here.

It can involve:

  • devaluation of others
  • status competition
  • hostility
  • defensive responses to threat

Research suggests that this antagonistic dimension has a stronger relationship with unwillingness to apologize than the more assertive, self-enhancing dimension sometimes called narcissistic admiration.

This distinction helps explain why broad statements about “narcissists” are often too crude.

The patterns that create the greatest interpersonal difficulty are not necessarily the same traits that make somebody confident, ambitious, or highly visible.

 

 

 

Be Careful With Retaliation Stories

 

The internet is full of claims such as:

“If you force a narcissist to apologize, they will punish you later.”

This can happen in difficult relationships.

It should not be presented as an inevitable psychological law.

A 2019 series of studies found that people higher in narcissism showed more nonapologetic and aggressive responses under some post-transgression conditions, particularly when receiving vengeful feedback.

That is interesting.

It does not mean every request for accountability creates inevitable revenge.

Do not turn group-level research into certainty about an individual.

 

 

 

If You Expect Retaliation, Treat It as a Risk Question

 

Perhaps you have concrete reasons to expect:

  • reputational attacks
  • information withholding
  • financial retaliation
  • exclusion from decisions
  • pressure on colleagues

Then manage that risk.

Do not rely on a psychological label.

Consider:

  • documentation
  • decision rights
  • access to information
  • governance
  • appropriate witnesses
  • professional legal advice where necessary

The stronger the business consequences, the less useful amateur mind-reading becomes.

 

 

 

With a Co-Founder, Governance Matters More Than the Apology

 

Imagine your co-founder repeatedly makes major decisions alone.

Each time, there is conflict.

Eventually they apologize.

Then it happens again.

You no longer primarily have an apology problem.

You have a governance problem.

Clarify:

  • Who can decide what?
  • Which decisions require joint approval?
  • What must be documented?
  • Who receives which information?
  • What happens in a deadlock?

Good governance reduces the amount of trust that must rest on somebody remembering to behave differently next time.

→ Narcissistic Co-Founder? Protect the Company Before You Diagnose the Person

 

 

 

When Facts Themselves Are Contested

 

A meaningful apology becomes difficult if two people cannot agree on what happened.

Perhaps you hear:

“That was never agreed.”

“I never said that.”

“You understood it incorrectly.”

Some disagreement may be genuine.

Human memory is imperfect.

In high-stakes relationships, reduce future ambiguity.

Use:

  • written summaries
  • clear decisions
  • meeting notes
  • defined approval processes
  • explicit responsibilities

Do not make every future conflict depend on competing memories.

→ Why Do Narcissistic People Lie? What Research Says — and What Matters at Work

 

 

 

An Apology Is Not Evidence That Your Interpretation Is Correct

 

This matters too.

People sometimes apologize simply because they value the relationship.

They may say:

“I’m sorry for how I handled that.”

while still believing:

“My underlying decision was correct.”

That can be entirely coherent.

Separate:

  • the decision
  • the process
  • the communication
  • the impact

Two people can disagree about the first and still acknowledge problems with the others.

 

 

 

Do You Need the Other Person to Understand Everything?

 

Sometimes you want more than an apology.

You want the person to understand exactly:

how much the event affected you,

why it mattered,

what it revealed,

and why you now see the relationship differently.

That desire is understandable.

It may not always be realistic or necessary.

Ask:

What level of understanding do I genuinely need in order to make the next decision?

You may need a workable agreement more than perfect emotional insight.

 

 

 

Closure Does Not Have to Be Given to You

 

This is particularly important when the other person refuses responsibility.

You may never receive:

  • the admission
  • the explanation
  • the apology
  • the agreement about what really happened

Your options still remain.

You can decide:

  • what you believe the evidence shows
  • which behavior you will accept
  • what you need documented
  • whether trust remains justified
  • whether the relationship should continue

Your ability to make a decision does not have to remain hostage to somebody else’s willingness to validate your interpretation.

 

 

 

Do Not Use Forgiveness as a Business Strategy

 

Forgiveness can be personally meaningful.

It should not replace risk management.

You may forgive someone and still:

  • verify information
  • change decision rights
  • document agreements
  • reduce exposure
  • end a partnership

Likewise, you may choose to continue working with someone without resolving every emotional aspect of the history.

Personal forgiveness and professional trust answer different questions.

 

 

 

Before Your Next Conversation, Clarify What You Need

 

Instead of entering the conversation hoping vaguely for an apology, define the useful outcome.

Do you need:

  • acknowledgment of a fact?
  • acceptance of responsibility?
  • a correction?
  • compensation or restitution?
  • a changed process?
  • a clear future boundary?
  • a decision about whether to continue working together?

Now the conversation becomes easier to prepare.

 

 

 

Questions That May Be More Useful Than “Will You Apologize?”

 

You might ask:

“How do you understand what happened?”

“What responsibility do you believe you had in that situation?”

“What do you think the impact was?”

“What should happen differently next time?”

“How do you propose we repair the consequences?”

“Do you still agree with the decision-making rule we had?”

Answers to these questions often tell you much more about the future of the relationship than a pressured apology.

 

 

 

Watch for Four Things

 

After a significant breach, I would pay particular attention to:

1. Reality

Can you establish a reasonably shared account of what happened?

 

2. Responsibility

Can the person acknowledge their contribution without immediately transferring it elsewhere?

 

3. Repair

Are they willing to correct what can be corrected?

 

4. Repetition

Does the same pattern return?

Reality. Responsibility. Repair. Repetition.

Those four questions are often more useful than asking whether the apology sounded sincere.

 

 

 

What If You Also Made Mistakes?

 

Difficult relationships can produce symmetrical storytelling.

Each person explains what the other did.

Neither examines their own part.

If you contributed to the situation, acknowledge it.

That does not require taking responsibility for the other person’s behavior.

You can say:

“I should have documented our agreement more clearly. That is my part. I still want to address why the decision went ahead without the approval we had discussed.”

Owning your part can increase clarity without accepting responsibility that belongs elsewhere.

 

 

 

Do Not Trade False Confessions

 

Sometimes pressure appears:

“I’ll apologize if you apologize.”

If both people have something meaningful to acknowledge, mutual accountability can be useful.

It becomes less useful when apologies are negotiated like tokens.

You do not need to admit something you do not believe merely to obtain the other person’s acknowledgment.

Address each issue on its merits.

 

 

 

When the Conversation Becomes Circular

 

You have explained the issue five times.

The same responses return.

You are no longer learning anything new.

At some point, another round may have diminishing value.

You can say:

“I think we understand each other’s positions. We do not agree about what happened. I now want to focus on how decisions will be handled from here.”

Or:

“We are not reaching agreement on responsibility. I still need to decide what that means for our future cooperation.”

Not every disagreement needs to be argued until one person surrenders.

 

 

 

When Legal or Governance Issues Are Involved

 

If the dispute involves:

  • shareholder rights
  • directors’ duties
  • company funds
  • contracts
  • employment law
  • liability
  • formal misconduct

communication sparring is not a substitute for qualified legal advice.

The legal question and the communication question can exist side by side.

You may need professional legal guidance while also preparing how to conduct the conversation effectively.

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

People with stronger narcissistic traits may, on average, show less willingness to apologize.

That tendency appears particularly relevant for antagonistic narcissistic characteristics.

It still does not mean that every person described as narcissistic will never apologize.

And the presence of an apology does not prove that trust has been restored.

So do not concentrate exclusively on:

“Did they say sorry?”

Look for:

  • acknowledgment
  • responsibility
  • repair
  • behavioral change

If those elements are present, the relationship may have something to work with.

If they remain absent, the lack of an apology is only one part of the information you have.

You do not need the perfect apology to make a clear decision about what happens next.

 

 

 

Dealing With a Difficult Business Relationship?

 

If you are dealing with a co-founder, shareholder, managing director, senior colleague, client, or other important professional counterpart and trust has been damaged, we can work directly with the real situation.

Depending on what matters, Executive Sparring may include:

  • separating facts from interpretations
  • examining recurring patterns
  • clarifying what you need from the other person
  • testing assumptions
  • considering power and governance
  • clarifying boundaries
  • preparing difficult questions
  • rehearsing the conversation
  • considering your options if accountability remains absent

I work primarily with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

→ Executive Sparring

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→ High-Stakes Communication

→ Fees & Booking

→ Discuss Your Situation

 

 

 

Research Note

 

Research does support an association between narcissistic traits and lower willingness to apologize, although the relationship is more nuanced than popular descriptions often suggest.

A 2017 series of studies found that narcissism was negatively associated with willingness to apologize and identified lower empathy and guilt as possible explanatory mechanisms. Importantly, antagonistic narcissism — narcissistic rivalry — rather than narcissistic admiration showed the clearer negative relationship with apology behavior.

→ Why Narcissists Are Unwilling to Apologize: The Role of Empathy and Guilt

A 2019 series of four studies also found that narcissism was negatively related to apologetic responses and positively related to nonapologetic responses following transgressions. The relationship varied depending on the victim’s response, illustrating why interpersonal context matters.

→ How, When, and Why Transgressors’ Narcissism Affects Motivation to Apologize

Research on apologies more generally shows that apologies can promote forgiveness and relational repair. Other work indicates that restitution and corrective action also matter.

→ Apologies, Relationship Value, and Forgiveness

→ Apology, Restitution, and Relational Repair

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders on difficult professional relationships, important decisions, leadership situations, negotiations, and communication under pressure.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching and consulting work.

→ About Karsten Noack

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Understanding the Challenge

 

Dealing with narcissistic individuals can lead to intense emotional pain, confusion, and exhaustion. I understand that many of you are facing an overwhelming situation, feeling isolated and unsure where to turn. My goal is to provide you with clear, compassionate support to help you regain control and navigate through this challenging time.

 

 

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I understand that not everyone has the financial means to afford professional support. In such cases, I invite you to use the comment section as a platform to connect and share experiences with others facing similar challenges. I occasionally provide responses there, offering guidance that may help you move forward.

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Questions and Private Concerns

 

For questions that could benefit others, feel free to ask in the comment section. Sharing these questions helps others understand that they are not alone and provides collective insights. For more private matters, I am available for professional support.

To arrange an appointment, discuss support options, or address organizational questions, please reach out via email at mail@karstennoack.com or better please use the contact form.

 

 

A Final Note

 

Thank you for your understanding regarding my procedures and the limitations I face due to the high volume of requests. Your courage in seeking support is commendable, and I am here to provide guidance, compassion, and clarity on your journey.

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Flying Monkeys & Narcissism at Work: What the Term Really Means

Flying Monkeys and Narcissism at Work: When Third Parties Become Part of the Conflict

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Flying Monkeys and Narcissism at Work: When Third Parties Become Part of the Conflict

 

You have a conflict with one person.

Then something strange happens.

Suddenly another colleague approaches you.

Then someone else asks a surprisingly specific question.

A person who was never involved in the original issue now has a strong opinion about it.

Your version of events appears to be circulating.

Or rather:

someone else’s version of events.

You may hear:

“I think you should simply apologize.”

“Everyone is wondering why you are making this so difficult.”

“I was told that you agreed to this.”

“Perhaps you misunderstood what happened.”

Now you are no longer dealing only with the original conflict.

Third parties have become part of the situation.

In popular discussions about narcissistic relationships, these third parties are sometimes called “flying monkeys.”

The term is memorable.

It can also encourage oversimplification.

In professional situations, it is usually more useful to examine what people are actually doing, what information they have, and how the network around the conflict is influencing decisions.

 

 

 

What Does “Flying Monkey” Mean?

 

The expression comes from The Wizard of Oz, in which the Wicked Witch uses winged monkeys to carry out her instructions.

In contemporary popular psychology, the phrase is used for people who become involved on behalf of someone considered manipulative, controlling, or narcissistic.

They may:

  • carry messages
  • apply pressure
  • repeat accusations
  • spread a particular version of events
  • collect information
  • defend one person aggressively
  • attempt to influence others

Some may understand exactly what they are doing.

Others may believe they are helping.

Some may simply believe a different version of events than you do.

“Flying monkey” is an informal label, not a clinical diagnosis and not an established organizational-psychology category.

That distinction matters.

 

 

 

Do Not Let a Memorable Label Replace Analysis

 

The term can become seductive.

You have a difficult conflict.

Someone supports the other person.

Now it is tempting to conclude:

“Another flying monkey.”

Perhaps.

Perhaps not.

They may:

  • have received incomplete information
  • genuinely believe the other person’s account
  • be protecting their own interests
  • feel loyalty toward that person
  • be responding to hierarchy
  • want the conflict to disappear
  • have reached an independent conclusion

Someone disagreeing with you is not evidence that they have been manipulated.

That is one of the most important safeguards when using this concept.

 

 

 

The More Useful Question

 

Instead of asking:

“Is this person a flying monkey?”

ask:

“What role is this person currently playing in the conflict?”

Are they:

  • bringing useful information?
  • mediating?
  • carrying messages?
  • reinforcing pressure?
  • spreading unverified claims?
  • collecting information for someone else?
  • protecting organizational interests?
  • protecting their own position?

Behavior gives you something you can respond to.

A label often gives you only another person to distrust.

 

 

 

How Third Parties Become Part of Workplace Conflict

 

Workplace conflicts rarely remain perfectly contained between two people.

Organizations are networks.

People talk.

They have:

  • alliances
  • reporting relationships
  • friendships
  • commercial dependencies
  • shared interests
  • career incentives

When a significant conflict develops, other people naturally begin forming impressions.

The situation becomes more problematic when third parties are deliberately or repeatedly used to increase pressure, shape reputation, isolate someone, or influence decisions indirectly.

 

 

 

Triangulation: When a Third Person Enters a Two-Person Conflict

 

One useful concept is triangulation.

Instead of A addressing B directly, A involves C.

For example:

A managing director is unhappy with another managing director.

Instead of addressing the disagreement directly, they speak extensively with senior employees.

Those employees then approach the other managing director.

Now the original conflict has acquired several additional relationships.

Information may become distorted.

Loyalties become relevant.

People begin choosing sides.

A disagreement between two people can become an organizational conflict surprisingly quickly.

 

 

 

Triangulation Is Not Always Manipulation

 

There are legitimate reasons to involve third parties.

You may need:

  • HR
  • a board member
  • a mediator
  • a shareholder
  • legal counsel
  • a responsible supervisor

because the conflict cannot reasonably be resolved between the original participants alone.

The important questions are:

Why is the third party being involved?

And:

What role are they being asked to play?

There is a difference between:

“We need an independent person to help us clarify this disagreement.”

and:

“Let me tell five people my version so that you enter the next meeting already outnumbered.”

 

 

 

What Might the Pattern Look Like at Work?

 

There is no single pattern.

Several behaviors deserve attention when they occur repeatedly.

 

1. Message Carrying

 

Someone repeatedly tells you what another person thinks.

“He says you are impossible to work with.”

“She wants you to know that this has gone too far.”

Ask yourself:

Why is the original person not communicating directly?

 

 

2. Selective Information

 

A third party approaches you with a strongly framed account of events.

They may know only one side.

Yet they speak as though the facts have already been established.

 

 

3. Reputation Shaping

 

The conflict becomes a story about your character.

Instead of:

“We disagree about decision rights.”

people begin hearing:

“He is difficult.”

“She is unreliable.”

“He cannot handle criticism.”

 

 

4. Coalition Building

 

People are quietly recruited into one side of the conflict.

By the time a formal discussion occurs, positions have already hardened.

 

 

5. Information Gathering

 

A colleague suddenly becomes unusually interested in:

  • your plans
  • your conversations
  • your reactions
  • what other people told you

Perhaps the interest is innocent.

Perhaps the information is being passed elsewhere.

Do not assume either conclusion prematurely.

 

 

6. Indirect Pressure

 

Several people separately deliver essentially the same message.

The effect may be:

“Everybody thinks you should give in.”

This can make a disputed position appear like organizational consensus.

 

 

7. Procedural Influence

 

The issue moves into meetings, reporting lines, HR processes, committees, or shareholder discussions in ways that alter the balance of influence.

Sometimes this is appropriate governance.

Sometimes process itself becomes part of the power struggle.

 

 

 

Gossip Can Become Organizational Infrastructure

 

Gossip is not always malicious.

People use informal conversations to understand organizations.

They exchange warnings.

They interpret ambiguous events.

They build relationships.

Yet gossip can also become an important channel through which a conflict spreads.

A claim is repeated.

Then repeated again.

Eventually:

“Someone told me…”

becomes:

“Everyone knows…”

Repetition can create familiarity without creating evidence.

 

 

 

Narcissism and Organizational Politics

 

There is research suggesting that narcissistic traits can matter in organizational politics.

Studies of grandiose narcissism have found associations with:

  • greater interest in organizational politics
  • greater willingness to engage in political behavior
  • greater use of influence tactics

Other research has associated higher narcissism with greater willingness to use more aggressive political tactics, including withholding information and undermining competitors.

This is relevant.

It still does not establish the popular claim:

“Narcissists always recruit flying monkeys.”

Research supports certain tendencies at group level. It does not allow you to infer an invisible strategy in a particular person.

 

 

 

Narcissism Is Not One Thing

 

Research increasingly distinguishes different dimensions of narcissism.

For example, more agentic aspects can involve:

  • self-confidence
  • ambition
  • a desire for admiration

More antagonistic aspects can involve:

  • rivalry
  • devaluation
  • hostility
  • competitive status behavior

These dimensions do not produce identical workplace outcomes.

This is another reason broad statements about “the narcissist” often fail to capture reality.

 

 

 

You Do Not Need to Diagnose Anyone

 

If several people are pressuring you on behalf of an influential colleague, your immediate problem is not:

“Which DSM diagnosis explains this?”

You need to understand:

  • what is happening
  • who knows what
  • which decisions are involved
  • who has authority
  • which statements can be verified
  • which risks need to be managed

Behavior, structure, evidence, and consequences usually give you more useful information than amateur diagnosis.

 

 

 

Do Not Assume the Third Party Is Weak or Stupid

 

This is another major problem with popular descriptions of “flying monkeys.”

The people involved are often described as:

weak-minded,

morally deficient,

gullible,

or unintelligent.

That is neither necessary nor particularly useful.

Intelligent, experienced people can accept inaccurate narratives.

Why?

Because information is incomplete.

Because trust matters.

Because status matters.

Because incentives matter.

Because relationships matter.

Because all human beings interpret ambiguous events through limited information.

Understanding how someone became involved is usually more useful than insulting their intelligence.

 

 

 

Some Third Parties Are Acting in Good Faith

 

Imagine someone tells a colleague:

“Karsten has completely excluded me from important decisions.”

The colleague approaches you and says:

“I think you should talk to him. He seems genuinely upset.”

Is that person manipulating you?

Not necessarily.

They may believe they are helping two colleagues resolve a conflict.

This is why your response should begin with information rather than accusation.

 

 

 

Some Third Parties Are Protecting Their Own Position

 

A colleague may understand the conflict very well and still align strongly with the more powerful person.

Possible reasons include:

  • career interests
  • financial dependence
  • access
  • status
  • fear of exclusion
  • organizational loyalty

That does not automatically make them a manipulated victim.

They may be making a strategic choice.

You do not need to know their complete motivation in order to manage the situation.

 

 

 

Some People Enjoy Organizational Conflict

 

There are also people who:

  • like privileged information
  • enjoy being close to power
  • gain status from acting as an intermediary
  • become important because two other people no longer communicate directly

This creates another reason not to conduct unnecessary conflict through intermediaries.

The messenger can gradually become part of the system that keeps the conflict alive.

 

 

 

Bystanders Matter

 

Research on workplace bullying illustrates an important broader principle:

third parties are not irrelevant observers.

Bystanders may:

  • support the targeted person
  • reinforce the aggressor
  • remain passive
  • respond ambivalently

The surrounding social environment can therefore influence whether problematic workplace behavior expands or loses support.

Again, this is broader than narcissism.

Organizations are social systems. Conflict does not happen in a vacuum.

 

 

 

Do Not Fight a Network With Another Network

 

You discover that several people have heard a distorted version of events.

The temptation is understandable.

You begin contacting everyone.

You explain your version.

You recruit your own allies.

You forward emails.

You collect stories about the other person.

Soon the organization contains two competing camps.

Now even people who were previously uninvolved are forced to take positions.

Counter-coalition building can turn a manageable conflict into organizational warfare.

 

 

 

Start With the Decision, Not the Drama

 

Ask:

What business issue is currently at stake?

Perhaps it is:

  • a shareholder decision
  • a budget
  • a client commitment
  • a personnel decision
  • access to information
  • a division of responsibilities
  • a strategic disagreement

Return to that issue.

Who decides?

What information is relevant?

What process applies?

Which evidence exists?

The more social noise surrounds a conflict, the more valuable procedural clarity becomes.

 

 

 

 

Separate Facts From the Social Narrative

 

Imagine you hear:

“Everybody thinks you blocked the project.”

Do not begin with:

“Who said that?”

Begin with the decision itself.

For example:

“The project required joint approval. I did not approve the current budget because the supplier risk was still unresolved.”

That is concrete.

You can discuss it.

“Everybody thinks…” is social pressure.

It is not evidence.

 

 

 

Ask for Specifics

 

Vague accusations spread easily.

Specific claims can be examined.

If someone says:

“People are concerned about your behavior.”

you can ask:

“Which behavior specifically?”

If they say:

“You keep undermining the project.”

ask:

“Which decision or action are you referring to?”

Specificity converts reputation stories back into discussable events.

 

 

 

Do Not Defend Yourself Against Every Rumor

 

A rumor appears.

Your instinct may be to correct it everywhere.

That can accidentally increase its reach.

Ask:

  • Who matters for this issue?
  • Could the claim affect an important decision?
  • Does it need factual correction?
  • Is there an appropriate formal channel?
  • Would responding create more attention than the claim currently has?

Not every statement deserves equal energy.

Correct consequential misinformation. Avoid becoming a full-time manager of everybody’s opinion about you.

 

 

 

Correct Important False Information Calmly

 

When misinformation affects decisions, correct it.

For example:

“I have heard that I approved the agreement and later withdrew support. That is inaccurate. The proposal was discussed, but final approval was never given. The relevant emails document that.”

Then stop.

You do not need:

“This proves the entire campaign against me.”

Stay with what you can establish.

 

 

 

Documentation Becomes More Important When Narratives Diverge

 

If important agreements are repeatedly disputed, create better records.

Depending on the situation, that may include:

  • written decision summaries
  • meeting minutes
  • approval records
  • clear responsibilities
  • documented deadlines
  • formal reporting channels

Documentation is not primarily about proving someone is a narcissist.

It reduces the amount of organizational reality that depends on competing memories and informal stories.

 

 

 

Document Facts, Not Psychological Interpretations

 

A useful note says:

“On September 14, X approved the expenditure without the second signature required by the agreement.”

A less useful note says:

“Narcissist once again manipulated everybody.”

If your documentation later matters to:

  • a board
  • HR
  • shareholders
  • lawyers
  • an auditor

observable events will be far more useful than diagnostic language.

 

 

 

Be Deliberate About Information

 

When you suspect that information is being relayed through informal networks, avoid indiscriminate disclosure.

This does not mean becoming secretive about everything.

It means asking:

Who genuinely needs this information?

And:

What could happen if it is passed on without context?

Professional information boundaries can reduce unnecessary complications.

 

 

 

Do Not Turn Every Question Into an Interrogation

 

At the same time, excessive suspicion can become self-defeating.

A colleague asks a normal question.

You wonder:

“Who sent you?”

Another person wants clarification.

You assume information gathering.

Soon you treat the entire organization as hostile.

That damages relationships that may have had nothing to do with the original conflict.

Protect information thoughtfully without turning vigilance into universal distrust.

 

 

 

Where Possible, Restore Direct Communication

 

If someone says:

“He told me that you…”

you can respond:

“That sounds like something the two of us should clarify directly.”

Or:

“I would prefer not to conduct this discussion through intermediaries. Let us include him and resolve the point together.”

This reduces distortion.

It also removes some of the status that comes from being the messenger.

 

 

 

When Direct Communication Is Not Appropriate

 

Direct conversation is not universally the answer.

Use appropriate formal channels when issues involve:

  • harassment
  • discrimination
  • threats
  • serious compliance concerns
  • financial misconduct
  • legal risk
  • formal employment disputes

Communication sparring does not replace qualified legal, HR, compliance, or other professional advice.

 

 

 

Do Not Use the Term “Flying Monkey” in the Meeting

 

You may use the concept privately to think about a pattern.

I would rarely use the label in an actual professional discussion.

Imagine saying to a colleague:

“You are one of his flying monkeys.”

What useful conversation follows?

Probably very little.

Instead say:

“You are raising a disagreement between the two of us. I would like to understand what information you have and what role you are being asked to play.”

That creates options.

 

 

 

Do Not Diagnose the Person Who Is Influencing Others Either

 

You may observe:

  • coalition building
  • information control
  • reputation attacks
  • pressure through third parties
  • selective narratives

Those behaviors deserve attention.

You still do not need to conclude:

“Therefore this person has Narcissistic Personality Disorder.”

Narcissistic traits exist on dimensions.

A clinical diagnosis requires a qualified assessment.

Your professional decisions can be based on behavior without depending on a diagnosis.

 

 

 

Watch for the Shift From Issue to Character

 

One of the most consequential changes in an organizational conflict occurs when discussion moves from:

“What happened?”

to:

“What kind of person is Karsten?”

Now every new event can be interpreted through the reputation already being created.

If possible, bring the conversation back to:

  • specific decisions
  • specific agreements
  • specific behavior
  • specific consequences

Character narratives are difficult to resolve because almost any event can be used to confirm them.

 

 

 

Be Careful With “Everyone”

 

Words such as:

“everyone”

“the whole team”

“people are saying”

create social pressure.

Ask:

“Who specifically?”

Or:

“Is this your concern, or are you speaking on behalf of someone else?”

This separates the speaker’s own position from claimed collective opinion.

 

 

 

Check Whether Consensus Is Real

 

Imagine five people appear to agree with a powerful executive.

That might represent genuine agreement.

It might reflect:

  • shared information
  • hierarchy
  • group pressure
  • career incentives
  • the order in which opinions were expressed

You do not know automatically.

If the decision matters, create conditions in which people can contribute independently.

For example:

collect assessments before the senior person announces their view.

Or ask stakeholders separately which risks they see.

Good decision processes reduce the need to guess whether apparent agreement reflects genuine independent judgment.

 

 

 

Leaders: Do Not Build an Information Court Around Yourself

 

Senior leaders can unintentionally create a network of intermediaries.

Employees learn:

who receives the leader’s trust,

who carries messages,

who has informal access,

who can influence the leader’s view of other people.

This can become organizationally dangerous.

As a leader, ask:

  • Am I encouraging people to speak directly where appropriate?
  • Do I routinely form judgments from one person’s account?
  • Do some employees gain influence by bringing me information about colleagues?
  • Do I verify consequential claims?
  • Have I accidentally rewarded gossip?

The person with power has particular responsibility for not turning informal stories into organizational facts without examination.

 

 

 

If Someone Tries to Recruit You Into a Conflict

 

You may find yourself on the other side of this dynamic.

A colleague says:

“You know what she is like. Can you talk some sense into her?”

Or:

“I need you to tell the board what he has been doing.”

Before agreeing, ask:

  • What do I know firsthand?
  • What have I only been told?
  • Why am I being involved?
  • Is there a better direct or formal route?
  • Am I being asked to provide facts or loyalty?

You can say:

“I am willing to discuss what I personally observed. I do not want to speak for events I did not witness.”

That is a useful boundary.

 

 

 

Do Not Become a Messenger Without Thinking

 

Someone asks:

“Could you tell him that…”

Sometimes that is harmless.

Sometimes you are being inserted into a conflict that does not belong to you.

A useful response is:

“Would it be better if you told him directly?”

Or:

“I am happy to help arrange the conversation. I would rather not carry the argument between you.”

 

 

 

If You Manage a Team, Stop Triangular Communication Early

 

Suppose Employee A complains about Employee B.

Before becoming part of a long private campaign, ask:

“Have you discussed this with B?”

If not, determine whether direct discussion is appropriate.

If you need to intervene as manager, clarify:

  • the specific behavior
  • the business impact
  • what has already been attempted
  • what outcome is needed

Do not allow a management role to become an endless delivery service for indirect grievances.

 

 

 

When HR Becomes Involved

 

Some people immediately view HR as:

an ally

or

an enemy.

Neither assumption is useful.

HR has an organizational role.

Understand:

  • which process applies
  • what information is requested
  • how documentation is handled
  • which decisions HR can and cannot make

Stick to specific events.

Avoid turning the discussion into competing amateur diagnoses.

 

 

 

When Shareholders or Boards Become Involved

 

Conflicts between founders or managing directors can quickly spread upward.

Then reputation, governance, and business interests become intertwined.

Before speaking with shareholders or a board, prepare carefully.

Clarify:

  • What decision do they need to make?
  • Which facts are documented?
  • Which matters are interpretation?
  • Which governance provisions apply?
  • What outcome are you asking for?

Senior stakeholders usually need a decision-relevant account, not a complete history of every interpersonal injury.

 

 

 

Governance Can Reduce the Power of Informal Alliances

 

Clear structures matter.

Especially between co-founders, shareholders, and managing directors.

Clarify:

  • decision rights
  • approval thresholds
  • access to information
  • reporting
  • responsibilities
  • deadlock procedures

The clearer the formal structure, the harder it becomes for important business decisions to depend entirely on informal alliances.

→ Narcissistic Co-Founder? Protect the Company Before You Diagnose the Person

 

 

 

Do Not Confuse Popularity With Reliability

 

A charismatic person may have many supporters.

A difficult person may be correct.

A well-liked executive may distort information.

An unpopular colleague may provide the most accurate analysis.

Social support tells you something about relationships.

It does not automatically tell you who is factually correct.

Important decisions deserve evidence beyond social alignment.

 

 

 

Do Not Confuse Isolation With Proof That You Are Right

 

The reverse is equally important.

You find yourself alone.

Everyone else appears to disagree.

It can be tempting to think:

“This proves they have all been manipulated.”

It proves nothing of the sort.

Perhaps you are seeing something others have missed.

Perhaps they are influenced by power.

Perhaps your own interpretation is wrong.

Ask:

  • What evidence supports my position?
  • What evidence supports theirs?
  • What would change my mind?
  • Which independent source could help clarify the issue?

Independent thinking includes the possibility that you may need to revise your own view.

 

 

 

Do Not Let the Conflict Consume Your Entire Professional Identity

 

A prolonged organizational conflict can gradually dominate attention.

You start monitoring:

who spoke with whom,

who liked whose message,

who attended which meeting,

who may be “on their side.”

Some of that information may matter.

Much of it may not.

Return repeatedly to:

Which information changes my next decision?

This protects both attention and judgment.

 

 

 

Ten Practical Steps When Third Parties Enter the Conflict

 

  1. Clarify the original issue. Do not let the surrounding politics erase what the conflict is actually about.
  2. Separate facts from interpretations.
  3. Ask what each third party actually knows.
  4. Move communication back toward direct or appropriate formal channels.
  5. Correct consequential misinformation with evidence.
  6. Document important agreements and decisions.
  7. Protect sensitive information without becoming universally suspicious.
  8. Avoid counter-gossip and unnecessary coalition building.
  9. Clarify decision rights and governance.
  10. Get appropriate legal, HR, compliance, or other professional advice when the consequences require it.

 

 

 

What Not to Do

 

Avoid:

  • publicly diagnosing colleagues
  • calling people “flying monkeys” to their faces
  • launching your own smear campaign
  • responding to every rumor
  • sharing confidential material indiscriminately to prove your case
  • assuming everyone who disagrees has been manipulated
  • letting the conflict replace ordinary business priorities

Your aim is not to win the social war. Your aim is to preserve your ability to make sound professional decisions.

 

 

 

When the Pattern Becomes Serious

 

The situation deserves additional attention when third-party involvement begins affecting:

  • your professional reputation
  • access to information
  • decision authority
  • employment
  • contracts
  • shareholder relationships
  • financial interests
  • legal or regulatory matters

Then communication strategy alone may be insufficient.

Use the appropriate professional expertise.

Communication preparation can accompany legal or governance advice.

It should not replace it.

 

 

 

Prepare for the Conversation, Not for a Psychological Battle

 

If an important discussion is ahead, prepare for what is observable.

Clarify:

  • What happened?
  • What can I document?
  • What do I need clarified?
  • Who has authority?
  • Which claims need correction?
  • Which questions should I ask?
  • What outcome do I want?
  • What will I do if no agreement is possible?

Then rehearse likely pressure.

For example:

“Everyone disagrees with you.”

You might answer:

“That may be. I still want us to examine the specific decision and the information behind it.”

Or:

“You are the only person creating a problem.”

You might answer:

“I am raising one specific concern. Let us look at that concern rather than my popularity.”

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

“Flying monkeys” is a memorable popular term for a real kind of social complication:

third parties becoming part of a conflict and amplifying another person’s influence.

Yet the label can create a new problem if it encourages you to divide everyone into:

victims,

narcissists,

and their henchmen.

Workplaces are usually more complicated.

People may act from:

  • loyalty
  • incomplete information
  • self-interest
  • hierarchy
  • genuine concern
  • political calculation
  • independent judgment

So concentrate on what you can establish.

What is being said?

What is being done?

What information is reliable?

Which decision is affected?

Which process should apply?

Which boundary is required?

Do not spend all your energy identifying “flying monkeys.” Understand the network around the conflict well enough to keep making sound decisions inside it.

 

 

 

Dealing With a Difficult Professional Relationship?

 

If a conflict with a co-founder, shareholder, managing director, senior colleague, or other important professional counterpart has expanded into organizational politics, alliances, reputation issues, or indirect pressure, we can work directly with the real situation.

Depending on what matters, Executive Sparring may include:

  • separating facts from interpretations
  • mapping stakeholders and interests
  • examining power and influence
  • clarifying decision rights
  • testing assumptions
  • preparing difficult questions
  • correcting misinformation effectively
  • clarifying boundaries
  • rehearsing important conversations
  • considering options if cooperation remains unreliable

I work primarily with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

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Research Note

 

“Flying monkeys” is an informal popular-psychology term rather than a formal diagnostic or organizational-psychology construct. Research therefore does not provide a scientific test for identifying a “flying monkey.”

There is, however, relevant research on some of the underlying workplace dynamics.

Studies of grandiose narcissism have found associations with greater engagement in organizational politics and greater willingness to use influence tactics. Research has also linked narcissism with some negative political tactics, including information withholding and undermining competitors.

Other workplace research has found associations between narcissism and workplace gossip, again without establishing that every person high in narcissistic traits behaves in the same way.

Research on workplace bullying also demonstrates that third parties matter: bystanders can defend the targeted person, reinforce problematic behavior, remain passive, or respond ambivalently.

The practical conclusion is therefore not that a narcissist inevitably controls a network of “flying monkeys.” It is that personality, power, organizational politics, information networks, and bystander behavior can interact in ways that deserve careful attention.

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders on difficult professional relationships, organizational dynamics, important decisions, leadership situations, negotiations, and communication under pressure.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching and consulting work.

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Setting Boundaries at Work With Difficult People

Setting Boundaries at Work: How to Respond When Someone Repeatedly Crosses the Line

Setting Boundaries at Work With Difficult People
Boundaries

Setting Boundaries at Work: How to Respond When Someone Repeatedly Crosses the Line

 

A boundary is not an attempt to control another person.

It clarifies what you will participate in, what conditions you require for cooperation, and what you will do when those conditions are not met.

That distinction becomes particularly important when you are dealing with:

  • a difficult business partner
  • a co-founder
  • a demanding client
  • a senior colleague
  • a powerful executive
  • someone who repeatedly ignores agreements

You may have explained the issue already.

Perhaps several times.

Yet the same pattern continues.

Then the central question changes.

It is no longer only:

“How can I make this person understand?”

It becomes:

“What do I need to do if understanding does not lead to different behavior?”

 

 

 

What Is a Professional Boundary?

 

In business, a boundary can concern:

  • decision authority
  • availability
  • communication
  • responsibilities
  • information access
  • money
  • deadlines
  • confidentiality
  • respectful conduct
  • what you are willing to approve or represent

A boundary might sound like:

“I will not approve expenditures above €50,000 without the agreed documentation.”

Or:

“If this conversation becomes personally insulting, I will end it and we can continue when we can discuss the issue professionally.”

Or:

“Client commitments in my area need my approval before they are communicated externally.”

These statements differ from:

“You need to respect me.”

The latter expresses a legitimate wish.

The former makes the required behavior more visible.

Useful boundaries translate principles into observable conditions.

 

 

 

A Boundary Is Not a Command

 

This distinction prevents many unnecessary power struggles.

You can say:

“You are not allowed to speak to me like that.”

The other person can still do it.

You cannot directly control their behavior.

You have greater control over your own response.

For example:

“If the conversation becomes personally insulting, I will stop it.”

Now the boundary includes an action that is actually available to you.

The strongest boundaries depend less on forcing another person to comply and more on knowing what you will do if they do not.

 

 

 

Do You Need to Call Someone “Toxic”?

 

The word toxic is widely used.

It can describe a relationship or environment that repeatedly has harmful effects.

It is not a clinical diagnosis.

And it can become so broad that it stops helping you think clearly.

Instead of asking:

“Is this person toxic?”

ask:

  • What exactly are they doing?
  • How often does it happen?
  • What effect does it have?
  • Which agreement is being violated?
  • What have I already communicated?
  • What changes when I address it?

Specific behavior gives you something to work with. Labels often do not.

 

 

 

And What About Narcissism?

 

Some boundary problems occur in relationships involving strong narcissistic traits.

Research has linked narcissistic traits with several potentially difficult workplace patterns, including greater workplace incivility under some conditions and higher psychological entitlement.

That does not mean every person who ignores a boundary is narcissistic.

Nor does narcissism tell you automatically what a particular person will do.

You usually do not need a diagnosis in order to respond to:

  • repeatedly ignored agreements
  • unreliable commitments
  • personal attacks
  • information withholding
  • unauthorized decisions
  • persistent pressure

Your professional decisions can be based on behavior, risk, and consequences.

 

 

 

Why Boundaries Become Difficult With Powerful People

 

It is easy to say:

“Just set a boundary.”

The real situation may contain:

  • financial dependency
  • hierarchy
  • ownership
  • career consequences
  • important client relationships
  • shared investments
  • reputation

A boundary with a colleague is different from a boundary with your CEO.

A boundary with a client is different from a boundary with your co-founder.

A boundary between equal managing directors may still be complicated by ownership percentages or informal influence.

Good advice about boundaries needs to take power seriously.

 

 

 

Start With the Behavior

 

Suppose you say:

“You constantly disrespect my boundaries.”

The conversation can immediately turn into:

“No, I don’t.”

Now you are arguing about an abstraction.

Instead:

“We agreed that client commitments above €100,000 require both managing directors. You gave the client that commitment yesterday without involving me.”

Now the issue is visible.

The more consequential the boundary, the more concrete the language should become.

 

 

 

Separate Preference, Request, Agreement, and Boundary

 

These are different things.

A Preference

“I prefer meetings in the morning.”

 

A Request

“Please send me the figures before the meeting.”

 

An Agreement

“We agreed that the figures will be circulated 48 hours before the meeting.”

 

A Boundary

“I will not approve the proposal in the meeting unless I have had sufficient time to review the figures.”

Confusion between these categories causes problems.

You may believe you established a boundary when the other person heard only a preference.

 

 

 

Ten Principles for Setting Boundaries at Work

 

1. Decide What Actually Matters

 

Not every irritation deserves a boundary.

If everything becomes non-negotiable, cooperation becomes difficult.

Ask:

  • Does this affect an important responsibility?
  • Does it create material risk?
  • Is the pattern recurring?
  • Does it undermine an agreement?
  • Does it interfere with my ability to do my job?

Use boundaries where something meaningful needs protection.

 

 

2. Be Specific

 

A boundary such as:

“You need to communicate better.”

is difficult to operationalize.

Try:

“Changes to the client proposal need to be discussed before they are sent externally.”

Specificity makes expectations easier to understand and easier to evaluate later.

 

 

3. Explain the Relevant Reason

 

You do not need to justify every personal preference endlessly.

In business, however, relevant reasoning often helps.

For example:

“I need final approval before this goes to the client because I carry responsibility for the commercial terms.”

This gives the boundary professional context.

 

 

4. Keep the Language Simple

 

Long explanations can weaken an important message.

You state the boundary.

Then explain it again.

Then defend it against an objection that has not yet been raised.

Then provide five examples.

The central point disappears.

Instead:

“I am not agreeing to that commitment today. I need the risk assessment first.”

Then stop.

 

 

5. Distinguish a Boundary From a Threat

 

A threat aims primarily to frighten or punish.

A boundary explains the consequence that follows from a condition.

Compare:

“If you do that again, you will regret it.”

with:

“If commitments continue to be made outside our approval process, I will ask the shareholders to clarify decision authority formally.”

The second may still be serious.

It is connected to the problem.

 

 

6. Choose Consequences You Can Actually Implement

 

A consequence you cannot or will not carry out weakens credibility.

Do not announce:

“Then I am leaving the company.”

unless you have thought through what that means.

Possible professional responses might include:

  • ending a conversation
  • moving communication into writing
  • requiring joint approval
  • involving the appropriate manager
  • using a formal escalation process
  • limiting discretionary access
  • reconsidering the commercial relationship

The relevant consequence is the one you can responsibly implement.

 

 

 

7. Follow Through

 

If you repeatedly say:

“I will not continue this conversation if it becomes insulting.”

and then remain for another hour while the insults continue, the practical boundary remains unclear.

Your action completes the communication.

Consistency does not require rigidity.

It requires that your stated limits have some relationship to what you subsequently do.

 

 

8. Stay Open to New Information

 

A boundary is not proof that your interpretation is correct.

Perhaps you misunderstood an agreement.

Perhaps the other person has information you do not have.

Perhaps circumstances genuinely changed.

Listen.

Then decide whether the boundary still applies.

Being clear does not require becoming intellectually inflexible.

 

 

9. Document Important Boundaries

 

For consequential business issues, spoken understanding may not be enough.

Document:

  • decision rights
  • approval thresholds
  • responsibilities
  • deadlines
  • confidentiality requirements
  • agreed escalation routes

This reduces future disputes about what was supposedly agreed.

 

 

10. Know When Communication Is No Longer the Main Problem

 

You may have been clear.

The agreement may be documented.

The behavior continues.

Then another communication technique may not solve the problem.

You may have a:

  • governance problem
  • performance problem
  • contract problem
  • leadership problem
  • compliance problem
  • relationship problem

Do not keep treating a structural problem as though the perfect sentence will fix it.

 

 

 

Boundaries With a Co-Founder or Business Partner

 

These relationships are particularly difficult because personal trust and structural authority often overlap.

A recurring conflict may involve:

  • who can hire
  • who can spend
  • who can sign contracts
  • who communicates with investors
  • who owns client relationships
  • who makes strategic decisions

If these questions remain informal, every disagreement risks becoming personal.

Clarify the structure.

Good governance turns some interpersonal boundaries into organizational rules.

→ Narcissistic Co-Founder? Protect the Company Before You Diagnose the Person

 

 

 

A Boundary Is Stronger When Governance Supports It

 

Imagine you repeatedly tell your co-founder:

“Please involve me before making major investments.”

That remains partly dependent on goodwill.

Compare this with:

“Investments above €50,000 require the written approval of both managing directors.”

Now the organization helps carry the boundary.

Where possible, move important limits from personal requests into reliable processes.

 

 

 

Boundaries With a Powerful Client

 

A valuable client can create pressure.

They want:

  • another discount
  • an unrealistic deadline
  • additional work outside the agreement
  • constant availability
  • a commitment you cannot responsibly make

The fear is obvious:

“If I say no, we may lose the client.”

Perhaps.

Yet repeatedly saying yes can create another risk:

the commercial relationship becomes increasingly unattractive or impossible to deliver.

A professional boundary might sound like:

“We can deliver by May 15 with the current scope. If April 30 is essential, we need to reduce the scope.”

That is both a boundary and an option.

 

 

 

Boundaries With a Senior Executive

 

Hierarchy requires judgment.

You cannot pretend that a conversation with your CEO is identical to a conversation with a peer.

Yet hierarchy does not eliminate professional limits.

You might say:

“I can prepare the recommendation by tomorrow. I cannot responsibly sign off on the figures until finance has verified them.”

Or:

“I understand that you want this announced today. I cannot state that the project is on schedule because the current data does not support that.”

A professional boundary can protect responsibility as much as personal well-being.

 

 

 

Boundaries Around Availability

 

Modern work makes availability unusually ambiguous.

Email.

Slack.

WhatsApp.

Calls.

Messages late at night.

A boundary may simply clarify the operating model.

For example:

“For genuine emergencies, call me. Messages sent after 7 PM will normally be handled the next working day.”

The point is not to impose a universal rule.

The point is to remove unnecessary ambiguity.

 

 

 

Boundaries Around Meetings

 

You can also set boundaries around how decisions are made.

For example:

“I am happy to discuss the proposal today. I will not make the final decision until I have reviewed the financial assumptions.”

Or:

“I am not willing to decide this under a five-minute deadline.”

This is particularly useful when pressure itself becomes part of the decision strategy.

 

 

 

Boundaries Around Personal Attacks

 

A disagreement about the business can become personal.

You hear:

“You are impossible.”

“You clearly cannot handle leadership.”

“Nobody trusts you.”

You can bring the discussion back to the issue.

For example:

“I am willing to discuss my decision. I am not going to continue a conversation based on personal insults.”

If the attacks continue, pause or end the conversation.

You can discuss difficult behavior without accepting unlimited forms of discussion.

 

 

 

Boundaries Around Interruptions

 

Repeated interruption can also become a boundary issue.

You might say:

“I want to hear your response. Let me finish this point first.”

If the pattern continues:

“We are repeatedly talking over one another. I want us to take the points one at a time.”

→ How to Handle Interruptions in Important Conversations

 

 

 

 

Boundaries Around Confidential Information

 

Sometimes the relevant boundary concerns information.

A colleague may pressure you to share:

  • personnel information
  • financial information
  • client data
  • negotiation positions
  • board discussions

You do not need a lengthy defense.

“I cannot share that information.”

may be enough.

Where legal, contractual, or regulatory duties apply, those requirements determine the boundary.

 

 

 

When Someone Keeps Testing the Boundary

 

You state the agreement.

The other person tests it.

You state it again.

Another exception appears.

At some point, stop treating every new incident as though it were the first.

Ask:

What does the repetition tell me?

Perhaps:

  • the boundary was unclear
  • the person genuinely disagrees with it
  • the incentive structure works against it
  • the consequence has no credibility
  • the person has little interest in respecting the agreement

The appropriate response depends on which explanation fits.

 

 

 

Do Not Keep Explaining Forever

 

One common reaction to boundary resistance is more explanation.

You hope that if the other person finally understands:

why it matters,

how it affects you,

why your position is reasonable,

then they will cooperate.

Sometimes explanation helps.

Sometimes the person already understands.

They simply want a different outcome.

A disagreement is not always a failure of understanding.

 

 

 

Do Not JADE Yourself Into a Negotiation You Never Intended

 

You may have encountered the advice not to endlessly:

  • justify
  • argue
  • defend
  • explain

The acronym JADE comes from self-help culture rather than a formal scientific framework, yet the underlying observation can be useful.

If you have already communicated a clear, legitimate position, excessive explanation can accidentally turn the boundary into a debate about whether you are entitled to have it.

In professional settings, provide the reasoning that is relevant.

Then return to the decision.

 

 

 

A Boundary Can Be Negotiated

 

Not every boundary needs to be permanently fixed.

Business requires flexibility.

You might say:

“Normally I need 48 hours to review the documents. For this situation I can do it by tomorrow afternoon.”

You have chosen an exception.

The exception does not automatically eliminate the general rule.

Flexible boundaries are still boundaries when the flexibility is deliberate rather than coerced.

 

 

 

Know What Is Negotiable

 

Before an important conversation, separate:

 

Preferences

Things you would like.

 

Interests

Things that matter and may be satisfied in several ways.

 

Limits

Things you are not willing or able to accept.

This helps you avoid two mistakes:

  • turning every preference into a non-negotiable boundary
  • giving away something essential because you never identified it beforehand

 

 

 

 

Boundaries Are Not Punishment

 

A professional consequence should serve a purpose.

For example:

If verbal agreements are repeatedly disputed, move important agreements into writing.

If authorization rules are ignored, strengthen approval controls.

If conversations become abusive, change the conditions under which those conversations take place.

If a client repeatedly exceeds scope, clarify commercial terms.

The purpose is to create workable conditions, not to teach another adult a lesson.

 

 

 

Do Not Announce Consequences You Secretly Hope Never to Use

 

Sometimes people use a dramatic consequence because they hope it will frighten the other person into cooperation.

“If you do that again, I quit.”

“Then the partnership is over.”

“I will take this to the board.”

If the other person tests the statement, you now have a problem.

Before stating a consequence, ask:

Am I prepared to follow through?

 

 

 

What If the Boundary Makes the Other Person Angry?

 

They may be angry.

That alone does not tell you whether your boundary is appropriate.

At the same time, their anger does not prove that they are narcissistic or manipulative.

People can dislike reasonable limits.

They can also object because your limit is unreasonable.

Listen to the objection.

Then evaluate it.

Another person’s emotional reaction is information. It is not automatically an instruction.

 

 

 

What If You Feel Guilty?

 

You may feel uncomfortable saying no.

You may worry that you are:

  • being difficult
  • disappointing someone
  • creating conflict
  • damaging the relationship

That discomfort does not automatically mean the boundary is wrong.

Nor does it prove the boundary is right.

Return to:

the responsibility,

the agreement,

the consequence,

and your alternatives.

Make the decision from those factors rather than from the temporary wish to make tension disappear.

 

 

 

Boundaries and Manipulation

 

Some people respond to a limit by changing the subject.

You hear:

“After everything I have done for you…”

“So you clearly don’t trust me.”

“Everyone else manages to work with me.”

“I thought we were partners.”

These statements may express genuine feelings.

They may also shift attention away from the original issue.

You can acknowledge the concern and return to the point.

“I understand that you experience this as a question of trust. I still need both approvals before the expenditure is made.”

You can respond to emotion without abandoning the issue.

→ 11 Manipulation Techniques at Work — and How to Respond

 

 

 

Boundaries and Narcissistic Traits

 

If the person has strong narcissistic traits, certain situations may become more difficult.

Research has linked narcissism with stronger anger reactions under some conditions involving perceived unfairness or lack of reciprocity and with greater workplace incivility.

Psychological entitlement can also contribute to workplace deviance.

These are group-level associations.

They do not allow you to predict the response of an individual.

The practical implication remains straightforward:

Prepare for observable behavior rather than assuming you know the person’s internal motives.

 

 

 

Do Not Use Boundaries as a Personality Test

 

You sometimes hear:

“Set a boundary and you will immediately discover who the narcissist is.”

That is too simple.

Many people push back against boundaries.

Perhaps they:

  • see the situation differently
  • believe your request is unreasonable
  • fear losing something
  • have different expectations
  • are accustomed to another arrangement

Resistance tells you that there is disagreement.

The pattern that follows gives you more information.

 

 

 

Watch What Happens After the Boundary Is Clear

 

This is more informative.

Does the person:

  • ask questions?
  • negotiate?
  • respect the agreement?
  • find legitimate alternatives?
  • ignore it?
  • punish you indirectly?
  • repeatedly reinterpret what was agreed?

Over time, behavior provides evidence about the reliability of the relationship.

 

 

 

One Incident Is Different From a Pattern

 

People forget.

They misunderstand.

They make poor decisions under pressure.

One boundary violation does not establish a personality pattern.

Pay attention to:

  • frequency
  • severity
  • response to feedback
  • willingness to repair
  • whether behavior changes afterwards

The response after a problem often tells you more than the problem itself.

 

 

 

When Boundaries Need to Become Systems

 

This is particularly important in companies.

If the same boundary repeatedly depends on one difficult conversation, ask whether the organization can carry more of the load.

Examples:

  • dual signatures
  • approval workflows
  • documented decision rights
  • clear reporting structures
  • contractual scope
  • access controls
  • formal escalation procedures

A process can be more reliable than repeatedly asking someone to respect an informal limit.

 

 

 

When Reduced Contact Is Realistic — and When It Is Not

 

Popular advice often recommends:

“Just go no contact.”

That may be possible in some private relationships.

Business can be different.

The person may be:

  • your co-owner
  • your CEO
  • a major client
  • a board member
  • a crucial supplier

You may need continued interaction.

Then instead of simply reducing contact, consider reducing unnecessary exposure.

For example:

  • use written communication for important agreements
  • keep meetings focused
  • clarify agendas
  • involve appropriate stakeholders
  • separate responsibilities
  • reduce unnecessary discretionary access

The objective is not maximum distance. It is workable exposure under the actual conditions.

 

 

 

Sometimes Ending the Relationship Is a Business Option

 

There are situations in which continued cooperation no longer makes sense.

Perhaps:

  • trust is no longer sufficient
  • agreements repeatedly fail
  • risk has become unacceptable
  • the commercial relationship is no longer viable
  • governance cannot be repaired

Ending a business relationship can involve substantial consequences.

Prepare carefully.

Where contractual, shareholder, employment, liability, or other legal issues are involved, obtain qualified legal advice.

A boundary can clarify the conditions for staying. Sometimes those conditions reveal that leaving deserves consideration.

 

 

 

Do Not Wait Until You Are Furious

 

Boundaries become harder to communicate once months of resentment have accumulated.

Then a relatively small event can trigger an enormous response.

Address relevant patterns early enough that you can still discuss them with precision.

Instead of:

“You always do whatever you want!”

you may still be able to say:

“This is the second time this month that a client commitment was made without the approval we agreed on. We need to clarify the process now.”

 

 

 

Five Useful Boundary Sentences

 

Simple language is often easier to use under pressure.

1. “I am willing to discuss the issue. I am not willing to continue the conversation with personal insults.”

2. “I cannot approve this until I have the information required for the decision.”

3. “That decision falls within my responsibility. Please involve me before committing externally.”

4. “We have discussed this several times. If the agreement cannot be maintained, we need to change the process.”

5. “I understand that you disagree. My position on this point remains the same.”

 

 

 

Boundary or Ultimatum?

 

Sometimes a genuine decision point exists.

You may need to say:

“I am willing to continue the partnership if joint decision rights are respected. If that is no longer workable for you, we need to discuss another ownership arrangement.”

That is serious.

It may also be accurate.

An ultimatum becomes problematic when it is used as a bluff.

Do not manufacture consequences simply to gain leverage.

 

 

 

Prepare for Pushback

 

If the boundary changes an established pattern, resistance is possible.

You may hear:

“You never had a problem with this before.”

“You have changed.”

“This is completely unnecessary.”

“So now everything has to be formal?”

You do not need to improvise under pressure.

Prepare your answer.

For example:

“The previous arrangement is no longer reliable enough for the decisions we are making. That is why I want the approval process documented.”

 

 

 

Do Not Overexplain Under Pressure

 

Pressure can make people talk too much.

You explain.

The other person objects.

You produce another reason.

They challenge that reason.

Eventually you are defending twelve secondary points instead of the original boundary.

Return to the core.

“I understand your argument. I still need the written approval before proceeding.”

 

 

 

When the Conversation Becomes Circular

 

You may reach a point where neither side has new information.

Then you can say:

“I think we understand each other’s positions. Repeating them will not change the issue. We now need to decide which process applies.”

Or:

“We are not going to resolve this tonight. Let us continue tomorrow with the relevant documents.”

A boundary can also apply to how long an unproductive conversation continues.

 

 

 

Do Not Fight for Respect as an Abstract Concept

 

You may feel disrespected.

That matters.

In a business conversation, translate it into something concrete where possible.

Instead of:

“You need to show me more respect.”

perhaps:

“When I am responsible for this area, I need to be included before a decision is communicated externally.”

Or:

“If you disagree with my recommendation, challenge the recommendation. Personal comments are not part of this discussion.”

Concrete conditions make respect operational.

 

 

 

What If You Have Contributed to the Pattern?

 

This question is worth asking.

Perhaps you:

  • accepted exceptions repeatedly
  • avoided the difficult conversation
  • communicated inconsistently
  • made threats you did not follow through on
  • left responsibilities unclear

Acknowledging your contribution does not transfer responsibility for another person’s behavior to you.

It improves your ability to change what is within your control.

You might say:

“I have allowed this to remain too informal. I want to change that now.”

 

 

 

When the Other Person Calls Your Boundary Controlling

 

Examine the criticism.

A legitimate boundary governs primarily your own participation, responsibility, or conditions for cooperation.

Control attempts go further and try to dictate another adult’s legitimate choices.

Compare:

“You are not allowed to work with that supplier.”

with:

“I will not approve that supplier under the current due-diligence conditions.”

Depending on your role, either statement may or may not be appropriate.

The important question is:

What authority do you actually have?

 

 

 

Authority Matters

 

A manager can legitimately set some conditions that a peer cannot.

A board may set conditions for management.

A shareholder agreement may define rights that personal preference cannot override.

A client contract may specify responsibilities.

Professional boundaries therefore operate inside:

  • roles
  • contracts
  • law
  • governance
  • organizational authority

“My boundary” does not automatically override another person’s legitimate rights or responsibilities.

 

 

 

When Formal Advice Is Needed

 

If the situation involves:

  • employment law
  • shareholder rights
  • directors’ duties
  • harassment
  • discrimination
  • compliance
  • financial misconduct
  • contractual obligations
  • personal safety

communication coaching is not a substitute for the relevant professional advice or formal organizational processes.

You may need legal, HR, compliance, security, or other specialist expertise.

Communication preparation can complement that expertise.

 

 

 

Ten Questions Before You Set an Important Boundary

 

  1. What exactly is happening?
  2. What part of the situation can I actually control?
  3. Which responsibility, agreement, or interest am I protecting?
  4. What do I want the other person to understand?
  5. What am I asking for?
  6. What is negotiable?
  7. What is not?
  8. What will I do if the pattern continues?
  9. Am I genuinely prepared to do that?
  10. Does this require a conversation, a process change, or both?

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

Setting boundaries at work is not about winning a power struggle.

It is not about controlling another person.

And it does not require deciding whether someone is “toxic” or narcissistic first.

A professional boundary clarifies:

  • what matters
  • what you require
  • what you are responsible for
  • what you will participate in
  • what happens when an important condition is not met

Be specific.

Make the boundary realistic.

Connect it to the actual business issue.

Follow through when necessary.

And when the same boundary needs to be defended repeatedly, ask whether the problem now requires a different structure rather than another conversation.

A useful boundary does not control the other person. It clarifies your own next move.

 

 

 

Dealing With a Difficult Business Relationship?

 

If you are dealing with a co-founder, shareholder, managing director, senior colleague, client, or other important professional counterpart who repeatedly crosses important limits or disregards agreements, we can work directly with the real situation.

Depending on what matters, Executive Sparring may include:

  • clarifying the actual issue
  • separating behavior from interpretation
  • identifying what is negotiable
  • clarifying responsibilities and decision rights
  • examining power dynamics
  • developing appropriate boundaries and consequences
  • preparing difficult language and questions
  • anticipating resistance
  • rehearsing the conversation
  • considering your options if the pattern continues

I work primarily with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

→ Executive Sparring

→ Conversation & Negotiation Preparation

→ High-Stakes Communication

→ Fees & Booking

→ Discuss Your Situation

 

 

 

Research Note

 

“Toxic person” is an informal description rather than a clinical category. Research therefore does not provide a scientific test for identifying a “toxic person.”

There is, however, substantial research on specific workplace behaviors such as incivility, interpersonal mistreatment, entitlement, and counterproductive behavior.

A large meta-analysis covering 253 independent samples from 219 studies found that workplace incivility is associated with a range of negative affective, health-related, social, and behavioral outcomes.

→ Meta-Analysis of 20 Years of Workplace Incivility Research

A more recent review describes workplace incivility as a widespread workplace stressor with relevance for both employee well-being and organizational effectiveness.

→ Workplace Incivility: Annual Review

Research also suggests relationships between narcissistic traits, psychological entitlement, and some forms of uncivil or counterproductive workplace behavior. These are statistical associations at group level, not a diagnostic method for judging an individual colleague.

→ Narcissism, Anger, and Workplace Incivility

The practical implication is straightforward: focus on observable behavior, organizational conditions, and workable responses rather than relying on broad personality labels.

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders on difficult professional relationships, important decisions, leadership situations, negotiations, boundaries, and communication under pressure.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching and consulting work.

→ About Karsten Noack

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(Note: This is not legal advice—consult a legal professional for legal issues.)

 

 

Understanding the Challenge

 

Dealing with narcissistic individuals can lead to intense emotional pain, confusion, and exhaustion. I understand that many of you are facing an overwhelming situation, feeling isolated and unsure where to turn. My goal is to provide you with clear, compassionate support to help you regain control and navigate through this challenging time.

 

 

Immediate Support and Appointment Options

 

If you need urgent help, I strive to be available at short notice, often even on the same day. This is possible thanks to immediate bank transfer options. A 60-minute phone call is typically sufficient to address urgent concerns, provide support, and create clarity. You have several options for appointments:

  • In-person meetings: Available in Berlin.
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If you are looking for guidance in making decisions, communicating effectively, or managing emotional distress due to narcissistic relationships, I am here to arrange a session that suits your needs.

 

 

Booking an Appointment

 

Due to the high volume of requests, my volunteer assistance must remain limited. However, I am committed to providing professional support—whether you need therapeutic help or coaching (excluding legal advice).

Appointments can be booked:

 

For your convenience, sessions can be arranged quickly thanks to real-time bank transfers. You may schedule an appointment first or, for even faster service, book directly. Once the fee is received, we will find the next available slot to suit your schedule.

 

 

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I understand that not everyone has the financial means to afford professional support. In such cases, I invite you to use the comment section as a platform to connect and share experiences with others facing similar challenges. I occasionally provide responses there, offering guidance that may help you move forward.

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Questions and Private Concerns

 

For questions that could benefit others, feel free to ask in the comment section. Sharing these questions helps others understand that they are not alone and provides collective insights. For more private matters, I am available for professional support.

To arrange an appointment, discuss support options, or address organizational questions, please reach out via email at mail@karstennoack.com or better please use the contact form.

 

 

A Final Note

 

Thank you for your understanding regarding my procedures and the limitations I face due to the high volume of requests. Your courage in seeking support is commendable, and I am here to provide guidance, compassion, and clarity on your journey.

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11 Manipulation Techniques at Work — and How to Respond

Manipulation becomes easier to resist once you recognize how the influence works.

 

An executive invokes authority instead of answering your question.

A business partner creates artificial urgency.

A colleague reminds you of an old favor just before asking for support.

A negotiator presents two options as though they were the only possibilities.

A shareholder repeats the same interpretation until it begins to sound like an established fact.

Each situation uses a different mechanism.

That distinction matters.

The better you understand the technique, the easier it becomes to slow the process down, examine the facts, and make your own decision.

 

 

 

Manipulation and Persuasion Are Different

 

Professional communication involves influence.

Leaders want people to support a direction.

Negotiators advocate for their interests.

Salespeople want clients to choose their offer.

Colleagues want approval for ideas.

Influence itself belongs to normal professional life.

A useful distinction lies in transparency and freedom of choice.

Persuasion presents reasons, arguments, and benefits that you can evaluate.

Negotiation makes different interests visible and searches for an agreement.

Manipulation tends to influence the decision through psychological pressure, selective information, hidden leverage, distorted framing, or other mechanisms that make independent evaluation harder.

The relevant question therefore becomes:

Can I still see clearly what I am deciding and why?

 

 

 

Why Knowing the Technique Helps

 

Manipulation often becomes powerful because your attention moves away from the actual decision.

Instead of asking:

“Is this proposal good for us?”

you begin asking:

“Will I look disloyal if I refuse?”

Instead of:

“Is this deadline real?”

you think:

“What if I lose the opportunity?”

Instead of:

“Which evidence supports this claim?”

you think:

“Everyone else seems convinced. Perhaps I am missing something.”

Recognizing the mechanism helps you return to the decision itself.

 

 

 

11 Manipulation Techniques to Recognize

 

1. Reciprocity Pressure

 

Human relationships depend on reciprocity.

Someone helps us, and we naturally feel inclined to return the favor.

This social principle supports cooperation.

It can also be used strategically.

A favor appears first.

The request follows later.

For example:

“I supported your project when the board was skeptical. I expect you to support mine now.”

Or:

“I gave you considerable flexibility last quarter. I need you to approve this today.”

The previous favor may be real.

The new proposal still deserves independent evaluation.

Helpful response:

Separate gratitude from the decision.

“I appreciate your support. I would still like to evaluate this proposal on its merits.”

 

 

2. Scarcity and Artificial Urgency

 

Scarcity increases perceived value.

Deadlines focus attention.

Both can reflect reality.

A financing offer can genuinely expire.

A candidate can genuinely have another offer.

A transaction can genuinely require a decision by Friday.

The manipulation begins when urgency is exaggerated or created primarily to reduce scrutiny.

Typical language includes:

“This needs approval today.”

“This is your last chance.”

“If we reopen the discussion, the opportunity is gone.”

Helpful response:

Ask what creates the deadline.

  • Who set it?
  • What specifically changes afterwards?
  • Which information would we gain from additional time?
  • What is the cost of waiting?
  • What is the cost of deciding too quickly?

A genuine deadline can usually be explained.

 

 

3. Commitment and Consistency Pressure

 

People generally prefer to appear consistent with previous decisions and statements.

This can be useful.

Commitment creates reliability.

Yet an earlier small agreement can also be used to make a later, larger request feel inevitable.

You initially agree to:

“Let us explore the option.”

Later this becomes:

“You already supported the project.”

You agree to a pilot.

Later the pilot is treated as approval for a full rollout.

You express general support for expansion.

Later one specific acquisition is framed as a test of whether you stand behind the strategy.

Helpful response:

Restate the scope of the earlier commitment.

“I supported evaluating the option. Approval of the investment is a separate decision.”

Consistency becomes useful when it serves sound reasoning rather than trapping you inside an earlier statement.

 

 

4. Social Proof and Manufactured Consensus

 

When several people agree, we naturally take that information seriously.

This is often rational.

The problem begins when consensus is exaggerated, invented, or used to discourage independent judgment.

For example:

“Everyone on the leadership team supports this.”

“You are the only person still questioning it.”

“All serious companies are moving in this direction.”

Consensus can influence us before we verify whether it actually exists.

Helpful response:

Turn vague consensus into specific information.

Ask:

  • Who was consulted?
  • What exactly did they support?
  • Which concerns were raised?
  • Was there a formal decision?
  • What evidence supports the broader claim?

Popularity and correctness are different questions.

 

 

5. Strategic Liking, Rapport, and Flattery

 

We are more receptive to people we like.

Warmth, similarity, compliments, and rapport can strengthen legitimate relationships.

They can also be used to lower critical distance.

A compliment may contain a hidden instruction:

“You are one of the few people here bold enough to approve something like this.”

The message sounds positive.

It also frames hesitation as cowardice.

Or:

“You and I understand how business really works.”

The sentence creates an alliance while quietly excluding alternative perspectives.

Helpful response:

Accept genuine appreciation and evaluate the proposal separately.

Ask:

Would the argument still persuade me if it came from someone I liked less?

 

 

6. Authority Pressure

 

Authority matters in organizations.

Expertise matters.

Experience matters.

Formal decision rights matter.

The problem begins when authority becomes a substitute for reasoning in situations where examination is appropriate.

“I have been doing this for 30 years.”

“The CEO wants it.”

“The consultants already confirmed it.”

“Trust me. I understand this market.”

These statements may carry relevant information.

They still leave room for questions.

Helpful response:

Respect the expertise and request the reasoning.

“Your experience is relevant. Help me understand which factors lead you to this conclusion.”

Strong expertise generally becomes more useful when its reasoning can be examined.

 

 

7. Repetition and the Familiarity Effect

 

Repeated statements become familiar.

Familiar ideas can feel increasingly plausible simply because they are easier to process.

In organizations, repetition can gradually turn an interpretation into something that sounds like established reality.

“The market wants this.”

“This team resists every change.”

“Our clients care primarily about price.”

“This project has executive support.”

Repeated often enough, assumptions can begin to sound like facts.

Helpful response:

Return to evidence.

Ask:

  • What supports this statement?
  • What would contradict it?
  • Where did the claim originate?
  • Has anyone tested it?

Repetition increases familiarity. Evidence determines reliability.

 

 

8. Emotional Leverage

 

Emotions contain information.

They also influence decisions.

Manipulation can use emotions to make careful evaluation harder.

Common forms include:

  • fear
  • guilt
  • shame
  • anger
  • sympathy
  • excitement
  • flattery

Examples:

“If this fails, everyone will know who blocked the opportunity.”

“I expected more loyalty from you.”

“The team will be devastated if you say no.”

“Imagine how successful we will look once this is announced.”

The emotional reaction may be real.

The decision still needs its own reasoning.

Helpful response:

Name the emotion internally and return to the issue.

“I can see that this matters strongly to everyone involved. Let us return to the criteria for the decision.”

 

 

9. Selective Information

 

One of the most effective forms of manipulation requires no false statement at all.

Present the advantages.

Omit the disadvantages.

Show the favorable comparison.

Leave out the alternative benchmark.

Discuss projected revenue.

Say little about implementation risk.

Quote the enthusiastic customer.

Ignore the five who declined.

The individual statements may be accurate.

The overall picture becomes distorted through selection.

Research on manipulation in organizations has identified withholding, filtering, or falsifying information among manipulative organizational tactics.

Helpful response:

Actively search for disconfirming information.

Ask:

  • What is the strongest argument against this proposal?
  • Which relevant information is missing?
  • What would someone who opposes this decision show me?
  • Which alternative comparison changes the picture?

 

 

10. Framing and False Choices

 

Every decision needs a frame.

The frame determines which aspects receive attention.

Manipulative framing quietly narrows your options.

For example:

“Do we want to grow or remain irrelevant?”

This sounds like two options.

It quietly assumes that the proposed strategy is the only path to growth.

Or:

“Do you trust your management team or do you want to control every decision yourself?”

Again, the framing hides other possibilities.

Perhaps you trust the team and still want appropriate governance.

Helpful response:

Challenge the frame.

Ask:

“What other options exist?”

“What assumption is built into this question?”

“How would we describe the decision from the opposite perspective?”

Expanding the frame often changes the decision.

 

 

11. Reality Distortion, Trivialization, and Gaslighting

 

This technique deserves careful language.

Every disagreement about memory or interpretation is different.

Workplace gaslighting refers to more persistent patterns that can involve trivializing concerns and, in some circumstances, creating confusion or self-doubt.

Examples may include repeated statements such as:

“That never happened.”

“You are imagining problems again.”

“Nobody else remembers it that way.”

“You are too sensitive to assess this objectively.”

“We never agreed to that.”

One statement proves little.

The concern grows when the pattern repeatedly undermines your access to a stable account of events, especially where a power imbalance exists.

Recent workplace research also highlights an important point: intention can be difficult to establish. The observable behavior and its consequences therefore deserve attention even when motive remains uncertain.

Helpful response:

Create reference points outside the disputed conversation.

  • document important agreements
  • retain relevant written communication
  • separate facts from interpretation
  • involve appropriate third parties when needed
  • return to verifiable events

 

 

Why Smart and Experienced People Can Still Be Manipulated

 

Manipulation is rarely a test of intelligence.

Many techniques work through normal human tendencies:

  • reciprocity
  • trust
  • social belonging
  • respect for expertise
  • desire for consistency
  • emotional reactions
  • preference for familiar information

Experience can help you recognize a pattern.

Experience can also create confidence that you would recognize manipulation immediately.

That confidence itself can become a blind spot.

The useful goal is awareness rather than invulnerability.

 

 

 

Manipulation Becomes More Powerful Under Pressure

 

Decision quality changes when:

  • time is short
  • status is involved
  • money is at stake
  • the relationship matters
  • information is incomplete
  • authority differences are large
  • emotions run high

Exactly these conditions occur frequently in executive work.

A shareholder dispute.

A critical negotiation.

A senior hiring decision.

An acquisition.

A conflict with a business partner.

A major client threatening to leave.

The more consequential the situation, the more useful it becomes to separate the influence mechanism from the actual merits of the decision.

 

 

 

Five Questions That Interrupt Manipulation

 

You rarely need an elaborate counter-technique.

A few good questions can restore clarity.

 

1. “What exactly are we deciding?”

This returns the conversation to the actual issue.

 

2. “What evidence supports that?”

This separates assertion from information.

 

3. “What other options do we have?”

This expands a narrowed frame.

 

4. “What creates the deadline?”

This tests urgency.

 

5. “Can we put that agreement in writing?”

This creates a stable reference point.

Clear questions reduce the power of vague influence.

 

 

 

 

What to Do When You Recognize a Manipulation Technique

 

Pause

A short pause creates distance between pressure and decision.

 

Name the Mechanism Internally

“This is urgency.”

“This is social pressure.”

“This is guilt.”

“The frame is unusually narrow.”

Once you recognize what is happening, the influence often becomes easier to evaluate.

 

Return to Your Criteria

What matters for this decision?

Which facts matter?

Which risks matter?

Which objective are you serving?

 

Ask for Specifics

Replace general claims with verifiable information.

 

Create Time Where Possible

Many manipulation techniques become weaker once immediate pressure decreases.

 

Document Important Agreements

Especially when money, ownership, authority, employment, or substantial commitments are involved.

 

Use Independent Perspective

Someone outside the immediate dynamic can often see assumptions and pressure mechanisms more easily.

 

 

 

What Manipulation Is Different From

 

A demanding negotiation partner is different from a manipulator.

A strong leader is different from a manipulator.

Someone who disagrees with you is different from a manipulator.

A salesperson using persuasive communication is different from a manipulator.

The distinction becomes clearer when you ask:

Does the other person make their interests and arguments available for examination, or does the influence increasingly depend on pressure, concealment, distortion, or exploiting psychological vulnerabilities?

 

 

 

When the Other Person Has More Power

 

The practical response depends on the power structure.

A manipulative peer creates one set of options.

A CEO, founder, shareholder, board member, major client, or direct superior creates another.

Before responding, understand:

  • your formal role
  • their formal authority
  • decision rights
  • documentation
  • organizational procedures
  • relevant contracts
  • possible professional consequences

Some situations benefit from legal, HR, compliance, or governance expertise.

Communication strategy should reflect the actual structure of power.

 

 

 

Manipulation Between Business Partners and Shareholders

 

Manipulation becomes especially consequential when the relationship includes ownership.

You may share:

  • equity
  • signing authority
  • employees
  • clients
  • financial obligations
  • intellectual property
  • reputation

Then communication techniques form only one part of the solution.

Governance becomes critical.

Who can decide what?

Which commitments require joint approval?

How is information shared?

How are deadlocks resolved?

Which agreements belong in writing?

Clear structures reduce the amount of influence that depends on personality alone.

→ Difficult Co-Founder Dynamics

→ Dealing With a Difficult Shareholder

 

 

 

Manipulation and Narcissism

 

Narcissistic traits can sometimes be associated with manipulative behavior, particularly where status, admiration, control, or self-image are involved.

Manipulation itself tells you little about diagnosis.

People can use manipulative techniques for many reasons and with many different personality structures.

For practical professional decisions, focus on:

  • the technique
  • the recurring pattern
  • the consequences
  • the power structure
  • your options

You can respond effectively to manipulation without proving why the other person behaves that way.

 

 

 

Signs or Techniques: What Is the Difference?

 

A manipulation technique describes the mechanism being used.

For example:

scarcity, reciprocity pressure, selective information, authority pressure, or emotional leverage.

A warning sign describes something you observe in the interaction.

For example:

agreements repeatedly change, questions trigger personal attacks, different audiences receive different stories, or saying no becomes increasingly costly.

Understanding both gives you a clearer picture.

→ 22 Signs of Manipulation at Work

 

 

 

Prepare Important Conversations

 

Once you recognize manipulative dynamics, preparation becomes especially valuable.

Before entering the conversation, clarify:

  • What do I want to achieve?
  • Which facts can I verify?
  • Which information do I still need?
  • Which techniques are likely to appear?
  • Which boundaries matter?
  • Where can I remain flexible?
  • Which questions will keep the conversation focused?
  • When would I pause the discussion?

You rarely need a perfect script.

You need enough clarity to keep your orientation when pressure increases.

→ Important Conversations & Negotiations

→ High-Stakes Communication

 

 

 

The Bottom Line

 

Manipulation becomes easier to manage once you recognize the mechanism.

Watch for:

  • reciprocity pressure
  • artificial scarcity
  • commitment traps
  • manufactured consensus
  • strategic liking and flattery
  • authority pressure
  • repetition
  • emotional leverage
  • selective information
  • distorted framing
  • reality distortion and trivialization

Then return to the decision.

What are the facts?

What do you want to achieve?

What remains uncertain?

Which interests are involved?

Which alternatives exist?

Which decision can you responsibly stand behind?

The goal is less about defeating the manipulator and more about protecting the quality of your own decisions.

 

 

 

Facing Manipulation in an Important Professional Relationship?

 

When power, business interests, relationships, and psychological pressure interact, seeing the situation clearly can become difficult.

Executive Sparring can help you:

  • identify the influence mechanisms
  • separate facts from assumptions
  • understand the power dynamics
  • clarify your options
  • prepare an important conversation or negotiation
  • decide what deserves to happen next

I work primarily with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders.

In person in Berlin. Online throughout Germany.

→ Executive Sparring

→ High-Stakes Communication

→ Fees & Booking

→ Discuss Your Situation

 

 

 

Research Note

 

Research on manipulation in organizations has identified tactics including withholding or filtering information, covert coalition-building, strategically creating trust, and exploiting ambiguity in rules.

→ Consequences of Manipulation in Organizations

Recent research on workplace gaslighting further highlights patterns such as trivializing concerns and the potential for confusion and self-doubt, particularly in situations involving power imbalance. The research also emphasizes that intention can be difficult to establish from the outside.

→ Workplace Gaslighting: A Construct for Organizational Research

 

 

 

About Karsten Noack

 

I work with business owners, managing directors, executives, and senior leaders on important decisions, difficult professional relationships, negotiations, leadership situations, and communication under pressure.

My background combines engineering, management, business consulting, marketing, psychology, communication, and more than 25 years of coaching work.

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Published: June 20, 2016
Author: Karsten Noack
Revision: October 6, 2021
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